Members of the 25 strong cat colony on Plumb Beach (Photo by Lisanne Anderson/Flickr)

You didn’t actually think we’d get through this story without a headline pun did you?

The National Park Service (NPS) has agreed to give more time to cat enthusiasts to remove a sizable colony of feral cats from the Plumb Beach federal parkland, and is even considering offering manpower and assistance in their relocation.

Doug Adamo, the chief of Natural Resource Management for Gateway National Recreation Area told Sheepshead Bites that he’s been inundated with calls and e-mails about the 25-cat colony they planned to remove this Friday, with nearly as many people supporting the plan as opposing it.

But they also heard directly from the folks who’ve been caring for the cats, building what he called “cat condos that were constructed out of wood and cardboard,” and who fed, vaccinated and neutered them. As a result of their discussions, Adamo said Parks has agreed to hold off on dismantling the colony for another week, until June 20, to allow the group to explore long-term relocation options.

“Nothing’s going to happen on Friday. We did get in touch with the people that were taking care of the cats. We decided we would give them an extra week to try and place the cats, or there are a couple of options that they gave me that they were looking at,” said Adamo.

Adamo said NPS could potentially offer staff to help trap the animals and remove the debris, as well as a vehicle to transport them a short distance. He said the cat caretakers are looking at facilities in Maryland or upstate New York, among others.

“They’re saying they will help and they don’t want them to go to the shelters and they want them to go to places where they have more assurances that it will go to a permanent home, which would be a good win-win solution to the situation,” said Adamo.

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The sign posted last week.

Contrary to the claims of cat lovers, Adamo said NPS never had plans to kill the cats. In most cases, colonies are dismantled as soon as they’re discovered and the cats are trapped and brought to local shelters for adoption, and just about every cat they’ve captured in the past has been assessed as adoptable by the shelters.

Normally there is no notice to the community, but he said that when NPS employees discovered the colony sometime in the last month, they were struck by its size and apparent maintenance, as well as the condition of the cats.

“In this case we noticed it was a large colony and they were healthy and cared for. We thought maybe we’d give them a chance to work with us on this and it appears that’s what we’re doing,” he said.

Despite flack from feline fans, Adamo maintained that removing the colony was essential to the parkland’s habitat.

“It’s our responsibility in the Parks Service to protect wildlife,” he said. “It’s a very difficult situation, especially here in New York, next to densely populated areas where non-native cats – and they’re all non-native – are always going to be coming into the park either by people bringing them there or by just wandering in.”

Even though they’re fed by humans, the cats still pray on area wildlife. The problem is even more urgent on Plumb Beach, a protected nesting ground for migratory birds including some endangered and at-risk species

“As land managers and natural resource managers for the park, [we must] do due diligence in protection of the wildlife,” said Adamo.

It doesn’t appear the decision has fully satisfied the cat enthusiasts. One of the colony’s caretakers, Nancy Rogers, has launched a petition online saying that the additional week now being granted is insufficient.

“The caretakers are willing to find homes for these cats but need more than the one week now allotted to accomplish this difficult task,” Rogers writes in the petition’s description. The petition launched yesterday afternoon and already has 193 supporters, and simply says “Stop the removal of the Plum Beach Cats.”

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  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

    The number of cats in this colony has remained constant. The individuals involved have not decided that Plumb Beach was to be a sanctuary for cats. But even finding placement for 25 cats is not easy. Especially so since some of them are not well socialized. Therefore, they need more time.

    • NotMustRead

      “Not well socialized”. R u referring to the cats, the NPS, or the participants of this discussion?

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

        The NPS may be socialized poorly, as it wouldn’t have taken much effort to contact the people involved in taking care of the ferals, I found them a few years back with little trouble. Discussion would have been less dramatic and more productive at the start. However NPS personnel spend very little time at that location.

        As for some of the participants in the discussion, they are trying to using a macrocosm theory to determine the effects of a situation in a unique microcosm.

  • NotMustRead

    A week isn’t enough time. What is their hurry. A couple of months won’t destroy the ecology. It may however drive my intolerant friends here insane.

    • JoseAmerica

      The colony has been there for some time. The cat folks have had plenty of time to remove it. It’s not the fault of the NPS that they waited until the last minute.

      • Notmustread

        The decision waS just made, not some time ago.

    • kitcatkitty

      Uh, yeah it could. There are endangered species that nest there. They are lucky they are getting an extra week. Not like they got permission to set up shop there in the first place.

      • Not Must Read the Second

        Uh, no it can’t. Those cats have been there decades without wiping out species, and you’re telling me it will happen in the next couple of weeks. Fine logic.

        • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

          Actually, it appears that the introductions of cats to that specific location is a recent development. There may have been earlier colonies that were obliterated through various means, but I do not believe there has been continuity. Were that the case, the number may well have been far more than 25.

          • Notmustread

            Lisa, I’ve seen groups of cats for a couple of decades there. Perhaps you’re right, my sightings may not have been continuous.

          • ebolaoutkast

            The cats have already done enough damage as it is. I think it’s outrageous that they’ve been granted even another week.

          • jane

            Your facts are wrong. We people who feed this colony have been at it for 11+ years. Sure, a few of the older or sick cats died – death always wins – but we have been doingTNR all this time. And do you know what happens when our healthy spayed cats are gone? Sad to say, cruel people will come and dump cats and then who will care for them? Unfeed cats will bring more disease to the area. Our colony was stable and kept away the rats. They added grace and charm to the walks. I suggest you google the Cats of Rome or Cats of Russia or the Cats at the Old City of San Juan. Cats become tourist attractions. Anyway, cats are natural to this earth- as natural as birds, and in times past bigger cats lived on birds. Any blame that our cats, who lived in the brush on a small spot of land, ate canned food and slept until the next meal, did any damage to the bird population has not been proven.
            We need laws to protect TNR colonies – we need politicians who care about wildlife as much as they care about people. Anyone got a candidate I could vote for?

        • kitcatkitty

          There are endangered species there. If the cats succeed in destroying enough adults then the population won’t recover. You may not see the result immediately, but the effect could mean the end for the species. Get a clue.

          And seriously, just how close to extinction of an endangered plover do you want to get? The cats need to go. The sooner, the better.

          • ebolaoutkast

            If a species did get wiped out, this idiot would probably exclaim “well that’s nature!”.

    • Ican’tevendealwiththesepeople

      You are an idiot. It’s federal law that non-native are removed from NPS property. Cats devastate local ecology. I actually feel bad for the cats and would prefer they get re-homed, but idiots like you make me support collecting and euthanizing every feral cat in NYC. Way to go.

      • Nomustread

        Which post do I come out against removal? Show me. Still another god-like entity here who believes anyone who disagrees with him is an idiot. I think your name is extremely appropriate. Continue to overrate yourself in the universe, the universe has a way of dealing with such attitudes.

  • the80smaroon

    You can’t stop them cause there….THUNDER! THUNDER! THUNDERCATS! HOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • Whynot?

      Probably the best argument for cats staying there on this page.

  • http://incrediblewordcrap.com/ Phil Rosenthal

    mmmmmm, chinese food

    • Nature_Proponent

      Due to all the heinous and deadly diseases that cats carry and spread today, it would be wrong to advise they be used for food or anything in this day and age (even in jest). The risk to anyone dressing them for even the use of their furs today (as they were commonly used in the past) could be deadly to the people involved.

      These are just the diseases cats have been spreading to humans, not counting the ones they spread to all wildlife. THERE ARE NO VACCINES against many of these, and are in-fact listed as bio-terrorism agents. They include: Afipia felis, Anthrax, Bartonella (Rochalimaea) henselae, Bergeyella (Weeksella) zoohelcum, Campylobacter Infection, Cat Scratch Disease, Chlamydia psittaci (feline strain), Cowpox, Coxiella burnetti Infection (Q fever), Cryptosporidium Infection, Cutaneous larva migrans, Dermatophytosis, Dipylidium Infection (tapeworm), Hookworm Infection, Leptospira Infection, Giardia, Neisseria canis, Pasteurella multocida, Plague, Poxvirus, Rabies, Rickettsia felis, Ringworm, Salmonella Infection, Scabies, Sporothrix schenckii, Toxocara Infection, Toxoplasmosis, Trichinosis, Visceral larva migrans, Yersinia pseudotuberculosis. [Centers for Disease Control, July 2010] Bird-Flu, Bovine Tuberculosis, Sarcosporidiosis, Flea-borne Typhus, Tularemia, and Rat-Bite Fever can now also be added to that list.

      (Yes, people have already died from cat-transmitted plague in the USA. Totally disproving that oft-spewed LIE that more cats in Europe could have prevented the plague. They would have made it worse. Once a cat contracts the plague it can and will transmit it to all cats in its colony or any other animals and humans it comes in contact with.)

      I tried feeding one of the shot-dead cats on my lands to the last few starving predators. (One of hundreds of these vermin cats that I had to shoot and bury to permanently stop the infestation of them.) Almost all the rest of my native predators starved to death from cats destroying all their food sources. Thinking that for once these invasive-species cats could give back for what they had destroyed and wasted during their existence — giving the remainder of the starved-out predators a much needed protein boost. Those animals promptly died from some disease in that cat-meat. Something in that cat-meat was able to kill the wildlife that were under my care (2 adults, 3 offspring they had while under my care). Cats truly are complete and total wastes of flesh. They can’t even be used to safely feed wild animals. Leaving any of these invasive-species cats out in nature, alive OR dead, is no better than intentionally poisoning your native wildlife to death.

      When ridding your lands and lives of these highly destructive vermin cats please do so in a manner where you can safely and sanitarily retrieve that useless carcass and dispose of it so no other life comes in contact with it. Your wildlife and neighbors will thank you. If using guns, I’d even advise against using a shotgun (the tool of choice in the past), too much disease-filled splatter. Make it clean as possible. Wear gloves while disposing of the cat-carcasses and even bury or burn those gloves too when the last cat is finally gone.

      • http://incrediblewordcrap.com/ Phil Rosenthal

        that was a very in-depth and enlightening response and i am very happy that i took the time out to read it

  • Matthew Schless

    Pray for the prey.

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  • Lena S

    ” NPS never had plans to kill the cats. In most cases, colonies are dismantled and the cats are trapped and brought to local shelters for adoption.” It’s such a nice spin on a big ole lie. These are FERAL cats. They are not socialized with people. People barely adopt sweet, socialized cats from shelters which are killed daily for lack of space, these guys would instantly get put down.

    • chrisgee

      this is the crux of the issue that the NPS is glossing over. the fairy tale that previous cats were all happily adopted makes for good press but anyone familiar with the municipal shelter system in NYC knows ferals get killed. relocation may be a solution but that takes time to organize. one week is not enough time to arrange a relocation on this level. unless the NPS starts working to find a humane solution, this is all spin to me.

    • MikeIU

      Lena, if you and chrisgee are so concerned about the cats I’m quite sure NPS will allow you to take the cats and confine them on your own private property. That way you can look after them yourselves and make sure they are well cared for.

  • FelineLuvr

    The level of ignorant by some cat lovers is mind boggling. Like climate deniers, it doesn’t matter how much information they are presented with, they’ve made their mind up … feral cat colonies are a good thing. Idiots.

    • Igor

      The correct phrase is the level of ignorance, except for the ignorant who cannot spell.

      • Nature_Proponent

        And the even more ignorant, who are unable to read through and forgive easily decipherable typos.

    • Nature_Proponent

      I only use online cat-lickers now as my little ignorant show-’n-tell puppets. To prove to everyone in the world, beyond any doubt in the universe, that no matter how much we try to educate them, reason with them, beg with them, plead with them, argue with them; that it will solve NOTHING toward the worldwide ecological disaster that THEY created and are hellbent on perpetuating. The ONLY thing that works is ignoring every last thing that these morons spew to others, and then giving back to them the EXACT SAME amount of respect and consideration as they have shown to all other life on earth — ABSOLUTELY NONE.

      Just destroy every last one of their free-roaming cats. Then and only then will the problem that they created be solved. They CAN’T be part of the solution because THEY ARE the problem!

      They only use their cats like little animal sacrifices to try to control and manipulate everyone in the world around them. These manipulative and inhumane cat-licking freaks don’t give one sh** how any cat dies or they wouldn’t let them roam free in the very first place. This is why they don’t give one damn if their cats get ran over by cars, attacked by other cats or animals, or die any other way. And if VERY VERY LUCKY their cat will be humanely shot-to-death — that is by-far the MOST humane death that any of their stray cats will ever hope to have.

      This really isn’t about cats at all. They only use their cats to try to control and ruin everyone else’s lives on the planet, animal and human — just because they hate everyone and everyone in the world has rejected them. Little self-victimization control-freaks, nothing more than that. Sociopaths and psychopaths to their very cores.

      You only have to ignore every last thing these deranged invasive species advocates are spewing to the world. That’s the most important part. Asking them for advice and help to solve the problem that THEY created and are hellbent on perpetuating is just as foolish as asking your local career thieves for their advice and help to hide your valuables from their daily motives, goals, and activities.

      Once their furry little tools to manipulate everyone are no-more, they don’t have even 1 of 4 legs to stand on — about anything. Nothing to complain about. Nothing to manipulate others with anymore.

      GAME OVER!

  • Supporter of Left Handed Rule

    This is turning into a cat-astrophy. But with my limited knowledge of feral cat colony lore, it’s my opinion that the well meaning community activists who have nurtured the feral cats and spay,neuter,release have mainly failed. The colony prospers and grows. It’s time to get the cats off the federal land. And yes, we mostly all oppose the pipelines, gaslines and other extraction enterprises the Feds are trying to insert into our parkland. But, one has nothing to do with the other so please don’t use the metering station and/or pipeline as a straw man. Thanks, and happy weekend to you.

  • Nature_Proponent

    Not too bright of the Park Service. Now they’re going to have hoards of criminally-irresponsible, psychotic, sociopathic, net-stalking, cat-lickers making everyone’s lives miserable for a LONG LONG TIME. If they were smart they would have just destroyed all those invasive-species vermin cats as quickly and quietly as possible without telling anyone. Just like everyone else does now-a-days.

    True to their form yet again, these psychotic and sociopathic cat-lickers post any and all anti-cat news events on their web-sites, blogs, email-chains, etc. (I keep track of these to watch how they operate), then within 1 hour of the news over 50,000 of them from all over the world (that’s only 0.0007% of the world’s population, to put their “powerful” cat-lobby numbers in true real-world perspective) will descend on any site that is about some controversial cat issue, start up at least 3 international petitions, and then fire off addresses (business and home), phone numbers (business and home), names, and even photos of everyone involved so they can then cyber-bully everyone into submission. They even post any and all 800 phone numbers of local authorities and agencies near the cats so they can then launch a phone-calling DoS (denial of service) attack on those agencies or any businesses involved. (I have archived all their attacks and methods for 3 years now, but this has been going on for decades.) The more dedicated cat-lickers from organizations like Alley-Cat-ALL-LIES (where they posted this recent event, on Alley-Cat-All-Lies Facebook pages) will then even fly cross-country or internationally to attend any protests and meetings to scream their warped, ecologically-illegal, and inhumane views. They even send off death-threats to everyone involved, even lawmakers and congressmen. There’s no limit to their cyber-bullying. Don’t believe me? Google for: Oda Lawmakers Shun Security Threats

    A measly and insignificant 0.0007% of the world’s population that do nothing but cause problems (and death) for every other living thing on earth by using their expendable cats as animal sacrifices for their self-victimization game they play to try to manipulate everyone around them for attention for their miserable lives.

    Take this most recent example, a loving veterinarian who tried to save the life of a sick cat from one of their outdoor hoarded TNR colonies. These sociopathic and psychopathic wastes-of-flesh cyber-bullied this caring and loving veterinarian to suicide.

    banvetabuse D0T blogspot D0T co D0T uk SLASH 2014_03_01_archive D0T html

    blogs D0T hudsonvalley D0T com SLASH pets-power/2014/03/03/veterinary-community-alleges-cyberbullying/

    Google for: LOEWS HOTELS FERAL CATS, if people don’t believe what these psychotic cat-licking whack-jobs do to everyone on the planet.

    Another replay of what these cat-licking cyber-bullying sociopaths do, Google for: CATS VENICE COMPLEX REPRIEVE

    A $150 million renovation project for low-income housing, put on hold, jobs lost, money lost, homeless still homeless, court costs and lawyers, just to save a few of their feral vermin c-Rats. And the saddest part of all, the vast majority of these TNR’ed cats had already died heinous inhumane deaths from TNR-practitioners’ “humane death by attrition” re-abandonment philosophy. (Road-kill, diseases, parasites, injuries, environmental poisons, cat & animal attacks, exposure, etc.)

    Similar scenarios can be found daily and weekly by Googling for feral cats and churches, universities, hospitals, shopping centers, malls, apartment complexes, etc. Cat-lickers delusionally believe that any land on which a cat has stepped-foot is their own property and they can manipulate and control the owners and all laws on it.

    This is precisely why everyone is learning to destroy all cats on their properties as quickly and quietly as possible. Telling nobody beforehand about any cats even being there. Long before these psychotic cyber-bullying cat-licker sociopaths and psychopaths get wind of the cats. Shoot (or trap & drown) cats first — tell no-one later. The only thing worse than feral cats are feral cat-lickers. You can legally shoot the former, not the latter. You need to pay lawyers and courts to get rid of the latter. THEN you can get rid of their cats. And the sad part is, that’s EXACTLY what happens, each and every time.

    People are wising-up. If ANY cats are around they destroy every last one of them first, before they make any other move. Before these cyber-bullying cat-lickers can do anything about it to try to destroy and waste everyone’s lives even more than they already have with their disease-infested invasive-species vermin cats. Not quite the results that these cat-lickers had intended, but that’s what they’re getting! :-)

  • Nature_Proponent

    The TNR CON-GAME

    FACT: Trap & Kill failed because cats cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control.

    FACT: Trap, Neuter, & Re-Abandon (TNR) is an even bigger abject failure because these man-made ecological disasters cannot be trapped faster than they exponentially breed out of control, and they also continue to cruelly annihilate all native wildlife (from the smallest of prey up to the top predators that are starved to death), and the cats continue to spread many deadly diseases that they carry today — FOR WHICH THERE ARE NO VACCINES AGAINST THEM. Many of which are even listed as bioterrorism agents. (Such as Tularemia and The Plague — Yes, people have already died from cat-transmitted plague in the USA. No fleas nor rats even required. The cats themselves carry and transmit the plague all on their own.)

    FACT: THERE IS ABSOLUTELY _NOTHING_ HUMANE ABOUT TNR. Nearly every last TNR’ed cat dies an inhumane death by road-kill, from cat and animal attacks, environmental poisons, starvation, dehydration, freezing to death, infections, eaten from the inside-out by parasites, etc. And if very very lucky humanely shot to death or re-trapped and drowned (the two most common methods employed on all farms and ranches to protect their gestating livestock’s offspring and valuable native wildlife dying from cats’ Toxoplasmosis parasites). This doesn’t begin to count the thousands of defenseless native animals that cats skin alive and disembowel alive for their daily and hourly play-toys. And pitting cat against cat to fight-to-the-death for territory is ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENT than those who run criminal dog-fight rings to see who wins. They spend YEARS in jail. IT IS A HIGHLY PUNISHABLE CRIME TO FORCE *ANY* DOMESTICATED ANIMALS TO FIGHT EACH OTHER FOR THEIR VERY SURVIVAL.

    FACT: Hunted To Extinction (or in this case, extirpation of all outdoor cats) is the ONLY method that is faster than a species like cats can exponentially out-breed and out-adapt to. Especially a man-made invasive species like these cats that can breed 2X-4X’s faster than any naturally occurring cat-species.

    FACT: The only difference in destroying cats immediately and humanely instead of trapping, sterilizing, then releasing them to an inhumane death and forcing them to fight-to-the-death for survival; is that money isn’t going into Becky Robinson’s Alley-Cat-All-Lies pocket, or an HSUS or SPCA board-member’s pocket, veterinarian’s pocket, cat-food company CEO’s pocket, or a drug-company CEO’s pocket. And that’s the ONLY difference! Support yet another organization that exploits and perpetuates the suffering of animals for their own personal financial gain, then try to sleep well at night.

    FACT: These manipulative, deceptive, and deceitful TNR proponents are now clipping cats ears ONLY. WITHOUT vaccinations nor sterilizing them. They do this to save money and protect their outdoor hoarded cat colonies from being trapped and euthanized by the state because the clipped-ear shows officials that they have been sterilized and vaccinated. Why pay $140 for each cat and all that time when just a trap and a simple snip of scissors on each one can also protect their hoarded cats from being destroyed? (I have absolute proof of this.)

    FACT: Cats are a man-made (through selective breeding) invasive species. And as such, are no less of a man-made environmental disaster than any other caused by man. Cats are even worse than an oil-spill of continent-sized proportions. They not only kill off rare and endangered marine-mammals along all coastlines from run-off carrying cats’ Toxoplasma gondii parasites, they destroy the complete food-chain in every ecosystem where cats are found. From smallest of prey gutted and skinned alive for cats’ tortured play-toys, up to the top predators that are starved to death from cats destroying their ONLY food sources. (Precisely what cats caused on my own lands not long ago.)

    FACT: In _SIXTEEN_YEARS_ Alley Cat ALL-LIES branch of NYC have only reduced feral cats in their own city by 0.08% to 0.024% (as the months go on that percentage becomes more insignificant), allowing more than 99.92% to 99.976% to exponentially breed out of control. Here’s how Alley-Cat-ALL-LIES’ deceptive math works: If you TNR 4 cats and 3 get flattened by cars this translates to 75% fewer feral-cats everywhere. Alley Cat ALL-LIES of NYC can’t even reduce cats in their own city, yet they promote it as a worldwide solution. Then even bigger fools fall for it and promote it.

    FACT: When researching over 100 of the most “successful” TNR programs worldwide, JUST ONE trapped more than 0.4%. Oregon’s 50,000 TNR’ed cats (the highest rate I found) is 4.9% of all ferals in their state. Yet, by applying population growth calculus on the unsterilized 95.1% they will have trapped only 0.35% of all cats in their state sometime this year. Less than 0.4% is a far cry from the required 75%-85% to be the least bit effective.

    FACT: Their mythical “vacuum effect” is a 100% LIE. A study done by the Texas A&M University proved that any perceived “vacuum” is just the simple case that CATS ATTRACT CATS. Get rid of them all and there are no cats there to attract more. I proved this myself by shooting and burying hundreds of them on my own lands. ZERO cats replaced them FOR OVER FOUR YEARS NOW. If you want more cats, keep even one of them around, more will find you. That university study also found that sterilized cats very poorly defend any territory. Non-sterilized cats, being more aggressive, take over the sterilized cats’ resources (shelter & food if any). If there is any kind of “vacuum effect” at all, it is that sterilizing cats cause non-sterilized cats to restore the reproductive void.

    FACT: During all this investigation I have discovered something that is unfaltering without fail. Something that you can bet your very life on and win every last time. That being — IF A TNR CAT-HOARDER IS TALKING THEN THEY ARE LYING. 100% guaranteed!

    • shoosh_cave

      these were epic shills indeed. but i still don’t understand what you are shilling, or for whom. i hope that you get some sun soon, so that you can impart some personality on these titanic cut-and-paste jobs. an A for effort, though!

      • Nature_Proponent

        That reminds me, there’s one more thing I should add to “The TNR Con-Game” list of facts:

        FACT: Every last TNR advocate is also a self-evident and self-professed cyber-stalker. (How else would you know that I post these comments many places?) This is how they’ve managed to get TNR into so many communities. By cyber-stalking and cyber-bullying everyone into it. (I have 3 years of proof of their cyber-bullying attacks, but they’ve been at it for decades now; they even send death-threats to congressmen and their families to make sure laws aren’t passed against TNR, I also have proof of this.)

        The most entertaining part is that I don’t even have to tell anyone this, they are more than happy to prove it to everyone all on their little own. Cat-lickers are never too bright. Thanks for proving it YET AGAIN!! :-)

        • nolastname

          Duh, Discus. lol
          Are you too smart to figure that out?

  • Nature_Proponent

    Any non-native cat that is allowed to illegally hunt our native wildlife where I live then in turn gets hunted until dead. No delays, no excuses, NO EXCEPTIONS. That’s the very best way to keep these invasive species vermin from destroying any more native wildlife or spreading any more of their 3+dozen deadly diseases to all other animals and humans. They had annihilated all the wildlife on my lands for 15 years, until on advice of the Sheriff I shot and buried every last one of hundreds of their vermin cats for them (as-is the legal right of every land-owner in all 50 states). Collared or not — for you MUST destroy ALL stray collared cats as well, they are the very source of every last feral cat. If you don’t destroy them too then you have done NOTHING to solve the feral cat problem. Guaranteed. All the cat-lickers by me told me for over a decade that all their “pet” cats were sterilized. But upon inspection during shooting and burying hundreds of them, NOT ONE of their cats were sterilized. Cat-owners are manipulative and deceptive LIARS — one and all. And TNR cat-hoarders are now just clipping cats’ ears ONLY without sterilizing them, to protect their hoarded cats from being destroyed by authorities. I have ABSOLUTE proof of this. It is widespread practice amongst all TNR cat-lickers.

    Licensing and laws do nothing to curb the problem. If cats are required to be licensed then these lying, deceitful, manipulative, and conniving cat-lickers just stop putting collars on their cats; as they did by me. And they won’t even bother getting them micro-chipped, especially not that. They want absolutely nothing that can hold them legally accountable for the actions of their cats. We’re not talking about the topmost responsible citizens of the world, you know. They don’t want that responsibility of what they and their cats have done coming back on them. If they had even one iota of a sense of responsibility and respect for all other lives on this planet we wouldn’t even be having these discussions.

    I found something that DOES work, works well, and works fast (relative to the years it takes trying to educate deceitful and lying cat-lickers that accomplishes ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, which you already know if you’ve tried to reason with any last one of them). Where I live cat-lickers have learned that _ALL_ cats, stray and feral, collared or not, ear-tipped or not (because TNR con-artists now just clip cats’ ears only, WITHOUT sterilizing or vaccinating them, to protect their hoarded cats from being trapped and euthanized), _ALL_ their cats are shot on sight and buried whenever found away from supervised confinement.

    The ONLY thing that works is destroying any of their cats found outdoors off their property. They either learn to stop getting more cats that die under the wheels of cars or from animal attacks, or they finally learn how to be a responsible pet owner, respectful neighbor, and learn to keep their invasive species animal under confined supervision, as it should be. Win win win all around.

    You can’t train a cat to stay home but I found that, in time, you CAN train a cat-owner into being a responsible pet-owner and a respectable neighbor. Most of them are so phenomenally stupid, disrespectful, and criminally irresponsible though that you have to make at least 12-15 of their cats permanently disappear before they even start to figure out what they’ve been doing wrong all during their sorry, useless, and pathetic lives. (Though the ones by me who were adopting cats from “barn cat programs” were uniquely cretinized and lobotomized. I had to shoot and bury many hundreds of their cats before they started to learn. Yes, some of them are just that pathetically stupid.)

  • Nature_Proponent

    If you live where its not legal to use firearms (generally most areas zoned as “residential”) then check into 700-1200fps air-rifles and pointed vermin-pellets. Many of the new ones come with their own sound-suppressor designs built-in, specifically designed for shooting vermin cats in urban areas, the demand is that great. Just remember, shoot-to-kill is a perfectly legal way to rid your homes and lands of these vermin cats. Shoot-to-maim is animal cruelty, and rightly so, all hunters know this. Don’t let them parade another illegal shoot-to-maim case in the media to exploit yet another suffering cat for donations for themselves. They torture enough cats to death with their TNR programs for that and make $millions by doing so. (Check out Better Business Bureau’s findings of “Alley Cat Allies” (All Lies) for one example of how to become a millionaire by torturing stray cats to death.) Then there’s always the “SSS and TDSS Cat Management Programs” that are exploding in popularity worldwide. Shoot, Shovel, & Shut-Up; or Trap, Drown, Shovel, & Shut-Up. Both methods are legal on every square foot of this earth. No local ordinances were violated if it never happened.

    Where cats have already learned to evade all trapping methods, then inexpensive generic acetaminophen (overseas paracetamol) pain-relievers are a more species-specific vermin poison — a method condoned by even Audubon, Smithsonian, and National Geographic today. Stray cats have been listed as “vermin” in the USA since the early 1900′s. (I learned this from a cat-licker, thanks cat-lickers!) This is why it is even legal to use any and all vermin poisons on them. For an even more species-specific vermin poison check into the toxicity of “Lilium” species of flowers too. Be certain the plant contains the word “Lilium” in the scientific-name (other plants with the word “Lily” in the common-name may be toxic to other species besides cats). Common N. American “Day Lilies” also work, they are the one exception to the rule that the name “Lilium” needs to be in the scientific name. Lilium species of flowers are 100% fatal to cats ONLY, even a bit of pollen on their fur that they lick-off will do. If they even drink a bit of water in which a bunch of Lilium flowers have been kept — that too is fatal, but totally harmless to all other species of animals (including dogs). Much safer for the environment and all other animals than the rat-poisons and antifreeze that cat-lickers have forced everyone into using on their cats. These plants when harvested and dried for year-round cat-eradication use is even better, as the unknown toxin is concentrated during the drying process (the blossoms and pollen being most toxic), and the dried plants are even more palatable to cats. An excellent mulch for anyone’s garden or a ground-up additive for any tins of food left lying around.

    However, you really need to dispose of that cat safely and hygienically so that wildlife won’t die from the deadly diseases cats spread even after their death. Leaving ANY cat out in nature, alive OR dead, is no better than intentionally poisoning your native wildlife to death. I know this. I fed a shot-dead cat to some wildlife under my care, those animals and their offspring that they had while under my care then died from some disease in that cat-meat. Cats truly are complete and total wastes-of-flesh. They can’t even be used to feed wildlife safely.

    I don’t see anyone dumping cats where I live anymore. They don’t even adopt more than can be kept under lock & key 24/7/52. When driving through the area I don’t see even one cat on anyone’s doorsteps anymore. I always keep an eye out to see if there are more free-roaming cats that will have to be shot. And if I’ll have to leave fish-oil trails on all the roadsides again, leading right to my IR surveillance system and laser-sighted rifle. (You can read some of the most effective methods I invented to rid my lands of hundreds of these vermin in only two seasons, posted here: americanhunter D0T org SLASH blogs/arkansas-will-trap-feral-cats The eradication of these disease-infested invasive species vermin was so complete and effective that cats are non-existent from my area for over 4 years now. Not seen nor heard a single one.)

    Leaving ANY of their invasive species cats outside in my area means certain death for their cat, their cat’s further existence can be counted in hours. You’d think everyone else could learn from this simple lesson. The quickest way to solve an unwanted animal and irresponsible pet-owner problem is to let everyone know that you will quickly and humanely destroy every last one of their unwanted, uncared-for, or unsupervised animals for them. They either grow up fast or, far more plausible, dump their animals elsewhere to become someone else’s problem.

    You just can’t be an enabler of criminally irresponsible spineless and heartless idiots — or they remain that way. (At least where you live, anyway.)

    IF THERE ARE NOT DIRECT AND IMMEDIATE IRREVERSIBLE CONSEQUENCES TO THEIR CRIMINALLY-NEGLIGENT AND CRIMINALLY-IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIORS AND VALUES THEN THEY LEARN ABSOLUTELY *NOTHING*.

  • Carolyn Streicher-Aydt

    What heartless people. I took in a few cats after Sandy. All of them sweet and healthy. Humans cause more disease and distroy more than any other species on earth. God help this cruel world. Some of you better think about karma.

    • Nature_Proponent

      I worry about these bible-home-schooled cat-lickers who believe in Karma while they criminally and irresponsibly and negligently let their cats roam free to die hundreds of inhumane ways. Their cats’ deaths are their OWN faults for doing so. Make no mistake about that.

      But here’s why they need to really worry. If cat-lickers truly believe in Karma, maybe they’ll be skinned-alive or gutted-alive someday, then left to writhe and scream in agony with their own skins pulled-up over their heads — EXACTLY what they allow their man-made invasive species cats do to all our valuable native animals just for their cats’ play-toys. Then they could hope their screams can draw the attention of someone with the strength of heart to put them out of their misery. Just like I had to do to all the thousands of native wildlife on my lands that local cat-lickers tortured to death with their cats — their screeching in torment in my woods calling my attention, and my then being forced to stomp those poor suffering animals to death with my own boot to hush their agony and torment caused by their piece-of-sh** cats.

      Have you ever felt and heard the sound of a small animal’s skull pop under your foot to hush it from screeching and writhing in torment after a cat-attacked it? You waste-of-flesh cat-lickers need to experience that — EVERY DAY — FOR YEARS. Just like I had to do for almost 2 decades, until I shot and buried every last one of your vermin invasive species piece-of-sh** cats.

      May the cat-lickers who believe in Karma hope like heII that I’m not the one to hear their screams for help after something has gutted them alive or skinned them alive. I’d just leave them there to thoroughly learn their much-deserved lesson at long-last, not even risk dirtying my boots with their unused gray-matter.

      I’d just keep on walking — to a far far better day.

      If you want to stop the senseless torture and cruel deaths of thousands of defenseless and innocent animals and all their offspring, you must begin with destroying any one stray cat — no matter how that you have to accomplish that.

  • NightOwl

    Typical of the feral cat advocates to be asking for extra time. That is just a ploy to try and stop the authority from doing the right thing. They have no intention of removing the colony and have had more than enough time to do so, they are trying to manipulate others to stop them from doing the right thing, so they can continue to hoard the cats. The authorities should not cave into these nutter feral cat advocates! This is how they do it and they will relentlessly harass the authorities. Take a look at Nature_Proponents comments, as he brilliantly explains how these feral cat advocates work

    • Mother_of_Nature_Proponent

      Brilliant? More like a raving lunatic who bites his lip, grinds his teeth and tightens his sphincter at the very thought of cats. It’s my fault, I didn’t breastfeed him enough.

      • NightOwl

        Says the nutter who creates an account naming themselves and claiming to be the mother of the poster in question

    • Nature_Proponent

      Here’s yet another recent and most-excellent example of how these cat-lickers cyber-stalk, cyber-bully, and engage in DoS (denial of service) phone attacks on any community, any individual, any business, any company, any organization, or any local municipality to manipulate everyone to what only THEY want. :-)

      (Link originally posted on one of their other cat-lickers’ sites. Be sure to expand and read all the replies to garner the full scope of their criminal ways.)

      facebook D0T com SLASH pages/The-Manada-Street-Cats-of-Harrisburg-Pa-are-Dying-Right-Now/1435017003434309

      This is OH SO TYPICAL of them. And I have no doubt that all the government departments in and around Plumb Beach are now realizing what a HUGE mistake it was to not just eradicate all their illegal diseased vermin first without telling anyone.

      For the rest of the world, pay attention to what they plan on doing to you too should you try to remove their illegal colonies of invasive species vermin one day and making the mistake of notifying others of the need to do so. They’ve been using this same routine and tactics for decades now. It’s how they got TNR started in this country in the very first place.

      What I fail to understand is why aren’t every last one of these cyber-bullying and cyber-stalking TNR cat-lickers not spending a few decades in jail yet for all the harm they bring to the wildlife of this world, the $millions in lost revenue they bring to every community, and destruction they bring to everyone else’s lives.

      • Effin Really?

        wow, nature proponent you are a real sickie! I hope your caught and prosecuted soon, sent to a mental hospital where you belong. “Wildlife under your care” is scary and illegal too unless you are licensed. That’s up to 10 years in jail if it is a migratory species! You must be a charming neighbor! If I ever saw a good case for getting the guns out of the hands of complete nut jobs – this is it!

      • NightOwl

        thanks for the link. what gets to me is its just its obvious cyber harassment and criminal behaviour but yet they are still able to keep on doing this. whats wrong with the authorities. ive been wondering why they are not in jail yet too. what are the police doing to sort these people out? shouldent they be arresting these people. by the way i just remembered to mention, they are doing this similar sort of thing in Britain (youve probably already read about it) cat ldiots are petitioning anti freeze manufacturers to put a bitterant in anti freeze. instead of keeping their pets safe inside, they are pestering the government and manufacturers to change the formula. I can see how its going to pan out. and if the manufacturers refuse to do it, the cat idiots will kick off about it probably. you can just bet this cant you. I wonder if what the TNR cat idiots are doing in america is the sort of thing of what they did in the UK to get tnr implemented in the first place just like the US

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  • M

    Cats are the least of the problems at Plumb Beach. It is 1 year since Sandy did it’s damage there and frankly there has been minimal cleanup of the area. Why the bike path from SHB to the beach area still is covered with the sand Sandy dumped there over one year ago. That’s pathetic.
    The garbage on this beach hasn’t been removed, trash that is, in years. Then there are the condoms everywhere.
    WTF, you think the cats are a problem.
    The gvmt needs to clean up this dump before worrying about cats.

  • nolastname

    Nature pro, Some piece of work. Proud of yourself? What scares me more than your rants is that people actually give you likes…even if they are guest votes which to me do not count at all.