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Screenshot from debate video, produced by Jacob Kornbluh

The Democratic candidates for the 48th District of the City Council, currently represented by Michael Nelson, tested the limits of civil discussion during a heated forum hosted by the Flatbush Jewish Community Coalition, with each candidate chiding the others for dirty campaign tactics and stances on issues contrary to the Orthodox community.

Sheepshead Bites couldn’t attend the forum, which was held in the heart of one of the most conservative communities in the district at Young Israel of Midwood, but reports by Politicker and NYCElects.com show that the discussion quickly turned negative, as the candidates lobbed rhetorical bombs – and meows – at one another.

Politicker reports:

Unlike in other parts of the city, endorsements from groups like the teachers’ union were treated almost as liabilities. And openly admiring George Bush–either father or son–was not.

“When I went down to the [United Federation of Teachers], I walked into the office and I said to them, ‘I don’t want your endorsement, but I’m here out of respect. I’m gonna come answer the questions and what my issues are,’” said Chaim Deutsch, an Orthodox Jewish City Council aide, to applause.

Ari Kagan, a Russian-American district leader backed by the UFT, fended off attacks from rivals and even prodding from a moderator about whether he would be committed to defending private school education, particularly tax credits for families with kids attending Yeshivas, while running with the support of a public school teachers union.

“Maybe you want to look at Ari, who has accepted the endorsement of UFT but in the same breath says he supports vouchers,” Mr. [Igor] Oberman remarked.

When asked if he supported school vouchers, Oberman said it would never happen in New York City, and encouraged attendees to “see through the bullshit” of what he believed to be pandering in other candidates’ support for school vouchers.

The Politicker report continued:

All of the candidates further reveled in panning more liberal-leaning Bloomberg administration policies like the proposed regulations on large sugary beverages–Mr. Oberman called the proposal “retarded”–as well as the tax burden on small businesses. Mr. Oberman, the Working Families Party-backed candidate, blasted Mr. Kagan for not denouncing independent expenditures being paid on his behalf by a real estate-backed group, portraying him as a future puppet of wealthy real estate developers.

Tacking right, Mr. Kagan hit right back.

“I never knew that I would come from the former Soviet Union to listen about class warfare in the United States of America from a person who also came from the former Soviet Union. I’m shocked, a little bit,” Mr. Kagan said.

As Mr. Kagan and Mr. Oberman traded blows, another candidate, Theresa Scavo, a professed admirer of both President Bushes, periodically cried “meow,” implying the two men were engaging in frivolous cat fights.

“I’m not getting down in the mud with any one of these three,” she declared. “I am finding this so disgusting sitting here, the three of them clawing at each other … the three of you are behaving like children!”

Scavo may have aimed to stay above the fray, but was dragged down into it after Deutsch targeted her for allegedly speaking ill of seniors, accepting the support of the National Organization of Women, which he said “had an agenda with gays and lesbians,” and for being complicit in deceiving the community when a supporter allegedly used a pen name to write a positive profile of her in a Sephardic magazine – an allegation which she “meowed” through.

NYCElects.com reports:

Mr. Deutsch also attacked Ms. Scavo for slamming ‘seniors’ sleeping at community board 15 meetings and for having Mike Geller, the former District leader in the 45th AD, pen articles in favor of Ms. Scavo in the Image Magazine under a pen name ‘Kim Grell’.

Scavo called Deutsch a liar after he made the claim about seniors, clarifying that she told then-Congressman Anthony Weiner that there were seniors sleeping at the Board meetings. She did not respond to the allegations regarding Mike Geller and the article in Image Magazine, but did dismiss the endorsement from the National Organization of Women, noting that she received it because she’s the only woman in the race.

Although the issue was not tackled directly during the debate, Scavo has expressed support for gay and lesbian marriage equality to Sheepshead Bites, as has Oberman. Deutsch and Kagan, as well as the Republican contender, David Storobin, all stand opposed to marriage equality.

From the reports, Deutsch appeared to be the instigator of the negativity, slamming each of his rivals one by one, including an allegation against Kagan that he had altered his first name – from Arkady – in order to draw more support from the frum community. Kagan mailers also printed his first name in Hebrew, another sore point for Deutsch.

“I will not be like my opponent … Mr. Ari Kagan, advertising as the name ‘Ari’ in Hebrew, making people think he is the Orthodox candidate,” said Deutsch, according to Politicker. “I will not fool anyone. I will not lie to you.”

“I am very proud of my name. I legally changed my name in 2002 before I ran for anything. I never knew that writing my name in Hebrew is wrong. What is wrong with you, Chaim?” Kagan replied, according to NYCElects.com.

Jacob Kornbluh, author of the NYCElects.com report, filmed the video below. He told Sheepshead Bites he hopes to have the full version online tonight, which we’ll add to this post.

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  • Broghtonresident

    All thissounds like a very good reason to add a “NONE OF THE ABOVE” line to the ballot!

    • Kman

      I’m with you. Who stands out in this field of political pygmies?

  • BayResident

    This is the most fun I’ve had watching an election since Storobin – Fidler.

  • joe

    i was at the debate. Initially things were relatievely quiet. Igor and Ari pretty much traded all the blows for the first 90% of the debate. Scavo started meowing at a point when those 2 continued fighting. When Chaim challenged her on a few topics, she meowed again. The last 10 minutes of the debate saw Chaim attacking each of his opponents and each of his opponents attacking chaim and the others back. Round 2 tonight in manhattan beach!!!

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  • NoName

    It’s a damn shame that there aren’t any decent candidates running for this position.

  • RainbowLady

    Gotta love watching the Democratic candidates trying to prove they are the most Republican-like of the bunch, and pandering to the Orthodox community. Sick of the way this district has turned uber conservative to kiss up to the ultra Orthodox! I was here before they moved in and shoved their views on us. You better believe there are still liberals in this area and we are disgusted with the right wingers running as Democrats!

    • levp

      So:
      - as a union supporter and a (proud) NOW member, I have to reject Mr. Deutsch’s candidacy;
      - as an (equally proud) supporter of marriage equality and public education, I have to reject Mr. Kagan’s candidacy, regardless of his first name;
      - as a (vocal) opponent of both President Bushes’ policies, I have to reject Ms. Scavo’s candidacy.
      In the end, I’m left with someone who looks and behaves like a career politician (Mr. Oberman)…
      Another sad day.

      • Leonid

        Mr. Oberman…
        “Politicians were mostly people who’d had too little morals and ethics to stay lawyers.”
        ― George R.R. Martin, Ace in the Hole

        • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

          Lawyers? Ethics? What was it that Shakespeare said?

    • sam

      the district got less orthodox & more russian with the redistricting. Check your facts before you spew your do-do brain opinions.

  • Helen

    For a long time, I Have felt politically disenfranchised. Who to vote for? I don’t know. I have been told, that if I don’t like what is happening to the neighborhood, I should get out. Maybe it really is time to move.

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