Source: Markowitz's office

Using tonight’s State of the Borough address, Borough President Marty Markowitz is expected to revive plans to establish ferry commuter service between Manhattan and Southern Brooklyn neighborhoods including Sheepshead Bay. Markowitz’s push comes less than a year after a city study determined Southern Brooklyn unworthy of such a costly service.

Markowitz will take to the podium at Brooklyn College tonight for the 2012 State of the Borough address. The address begins at 6:45 p.m. and can be viewed live here.

According to a Daily News report, Markowitz plans to “push for the expansion of city ferry service to connect Manhattan to Coney Island, Sheepshead Bay, the Canarsie Pier and the 69th Street Pier in Bay Ridge.”

If that proposal sounds familiar, it’s because it is.

Way back in 2009, the New York City Economic Development Corporation unveiled the Comprehensive Citywide Ferry Study, which identified possible landing locations for an expansion of commuter ferry services around the city and weighed the costs and benefits.

When the EDC rolled into the Sheepshead Bay – Manhattan Beach area for a public hearing on the plan, they got an earful.

“It’s romantic. It’s beautiful. It’s wonderful. But practically speaking, it’s not practical,” Bay Improvement Group President Steve Barrison said at the hearing.

Critics of the plan blasted it as an impractical way to make the commute. At an estimated 45 minutes for the trip to Manhattan, it would cost approximately $6.00 per rider, offering little incentive for those paying $2.25 for a trip of the same duration on the subway. They also worried about the effects of parking in the area, and noted that any ferry service in the area would require the Bay to be dredged.

Among those against the proposal were Community Board 15 Chairperson Theresa Scavo, the Sheepshead Bay / Plumb Beach Civic Association and the Manhattan Beach Community Group.

Still, the plan did receive support from administrators at Kingsborough Community College – who felt it would offer a better alternative to many of their students who live far away – as well as City Councilman Michael Nelson. Nelson said a ferry system could aid in the case of a terrorist attack.

“In the age of terrorism … it would be nice to know a waterway system was in place. It’s almost like a backup system,” he said.

Though no conclusions were presented at the hearing, EDC’s Senior Vice President of Maritime Venetia Lannon picked up on the community’s vibe.

“I heard more negative than positive. Nevertheless, we will do our due diligence,” she said. “But if I were to take a poll tonight, I think it’s against.”

After that, there was nary a mention of ferry service in Sheepshead Bay – until their final analysis was released in March 2011. The conclusions? Not only did the EDC acknowledge parking problems in the area, they also noted that the Sheepshead Bay landing was third to last in rankings of demand for ferry service among all 41 sites under consideration. They added that it was one of just a few of the studied locations for which the water-based commute would be longer than the subway, and that – at $17.24 – it would require one of the highest taxpayer subsidies per rider in the entire waterway system.

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  • http://www.brucebrodinsky.com Bruce B

    Quite awhile ago, there was ferry service from Wall Street right to Lundy’s. Couldn’t be better for me.(I think it was the mid 80′s).

     It didn’t last. Why? Well, the last time I took it, I and all of two other customers stepped off the boat at Lundy’s, and this was rush hour.

      I wish them luck, I’d LOVE to see it, but there didn’t seem to be the paying interest back then, so I’m a bit skeptical.

    Since I lived in Canarsie as a child (right off the pier in that project), I’d personally love a boat that could take me from S. Bay to Canarsie, since I do visit my old neighborhood once, sometimes twice a year.

     I can only hope that something has changed since the last unsuccessful ferry came this way.

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

      As you point out, there is no evidence that this will be utilized. That all of the local groups were against it should not be surprising, they all have lists of projects that should be funded. A ferry is like throwing a dog a bone instead of meat.

      • Barkingspider07

        I worry that it would be OVERUTILIZED and we’d be getting people from all over the place, parking cars and causing more traffic.  Sheepshead Bay has enough parking problems, especially in nice weather, and as a driver, I really don’t want more. 

        • http://twitter.com/Lostinservice Lostinservice

           So lose-lose either way.

        • http://www.brucebrodinsky.com Bruce B

          This constant complaint about the parking. Why don’t we just gate off the entire neighborhood and not allow anyone in if every single new item proposed is subject to the “parking problem” objection.  No new stores, no ferry, no outsiders.

          • Barkingspider07

            How ’bout if you’re building something, make sure you have land to make a parking lot?  That would be a big help to this ever worsening problem.  Do you drive?  If you do, I’m very surprised at your response.

  • Rob

    A ferry from Floyd Bennett field, with lots of free parking on the old runways, would benefit locals and also remove some trafffic from the Belt.

    • http://www.brucebrodinsky.com Bruce B

      I’m thinking a ferry only from Bay Ridge to Coney Island, to Sheepshead to Canarsie to Rockaway.  Maybe that would alleviate traffic along the Belt.

         It’s a shame that NY has so much waterway and it’s not utilized.

         I  find it interesting that an objection to the use of water is a probleme with cars (parking).

  • Anonymous

    I used to live in Hoboken and would take the ferry home quite often even though it cost more than the path and took longer. Being on the water in NY harbor is one of life’s great pleasures.

    So I loved the idea of bringing a ferry to Sheepshead. That is until I saw the cost “$17.24 – it would require one of the highest taxpayer subsidies per rider in the entire waterway system”

    Sorry, we don’t need it that much. 

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  • geneee

    markowitz gets so much cash under the table lollllll

  • NSF

    Sounds like a plan if they keep the cost reasonable and they make sure ferry captains are trained better than some of those who worked on the SI Ferry.

  • http://www.brucebrodinsky.com Bruce B

    Just wondering. If coney island is going to be an attraction, and a year-round one, maybe a south shore-only ferry would be cheaper. Eliminate manhattan. Rockaway to Canarsie to coney to bay ridge, maybe the Heights. It’s impossible to travel the south shore via public transportation, maybe this can be a good substitute.

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