Elderly Woman Shot In Broad Daylight in Brighton Beach


by on Oct 21st, 2011

Source: News12

A 65-year-old woman was gunned down yesterday morning at the intersection of Sea Breeze Avenue and West 2nd Street.

Police are still investigating the incident, in which they say a man on a mountain bike shot the woman multiple times as she was walking on the sidewalk just before noon. The woman was taken to Coney Island Hospital, where she was pronounced dead from injuries to her torso.

The woman’s identity has not been released. No arrests have been made, and investigators are asking that anyone with information on the case contact the Crime Stoppers hotline at 1-800-577-TIPS, or text CRIMES and then enter TIP577, or visit www.nypdcrimestoppers.com.

[via News 12]

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  • nolastname

    This is horrible. Sorry for the family. 
    Something so violent…a reason? 

  • Anonymous

    The old woman was probably a greedy capitalist banker and the shooter was an oppressed minority simply taking the power back to the people.  I just don’t see any other explanation for it.

    • levp

      I see a better explanation: The old woman was probably a greedy capitalist banker and the shooter was hired by another greedy capitalist banker to “eliminate the competition”.

      • Anonymous

        Statistically speaking my version is more likely, at least about the shooter.

        • levp

          Please cite those stats.  Also, see RomanM’s comment below – I concur:
          http://www.sheepsheadbites.com/2011/10/elderly-woman-shot-in-broad-daylight-in-brighton-beach/#comment-340899910

          • Anonymous

            Here you go:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Homicide_offending_by_race.jpg

            As far murders committed by Russians in NYC in the past few years, I could count them all using the fingers on my two hands, and that includes the two recent mass murders which we recently had.  Now how many pairs of hands would you need to count the murders committed by our darker brothers?

          • http://www.njluxurymotors.com Arthur Borko

            What happened in 1984 to stem the tide I wonder…

          • Anonymous

            I WAS BORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • levp

            That is presented as an image, while Bureau of Justice Statistics uses Excel files in actual reports.  This makes it impossible to verify the accuracy of sources and even attribution of the data to said sources.

            So I went to the “horse’s mouth”:
            http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=2065
            (since homicides are state offenses)
            and retrieved:
            “New court commitments to state prison: Offense, by sex, race, and Hispanic origin”
            for 2008 and 2009 (in the zip file as Table 4 for both years).

            Violent Offenses (all) 2008: White 25.7% Black 29%
            Violent Offenses (all) 2009: White 25.8% Black 30.3%
            and
            Homicide 2008: White 2.5% Black 3.2%
            Homicide 2009: White 2.4% Black 3.1%

            but
            Rape 2008: White 1.9% Black 1.1%
            Rape 2009: White 2% Black 1.1%
            Other Sexual Assault 2008: White 5.4%  Black 2.2%
            Other Sexual Assault 2009: White 5.2%  Black 2.2%

            So, as you can see, it is not quite as dramatic as shown in that image on Wikipedia.  And this being Brighton Beach, RomanM’s guess is just more likely.

            Also, I thought you were talking about revolutionaries – those are definitely Russians… Forgot 1917, comrade?

          • Anonymous

            Very good genius.  Since blacks are a much smaller % of the population than whites these statistics are virtually useless.  Kind of like saying, “look in China Blacks don’t commit any crimes at all.”  You have to look at crimes as a per a certain # of a population, as in how many murderers are in there in a population of 100,000 blacks / whites, which is what the graph from wikipedia shows.   

            Don’t know what 1917, revolutionaries, or RomanM has to do with it.  Even in a predominantly Russian neighborhood like Brighton Beach a violent crime is more likely to be committed by blacks.

          • levp

            1. From:
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooklyn#Demographics

            According to the 2010 Census, 35.7% of the population was non-Hispanic White, 31.9% non-Hispanic Black or African American

            Not that different.

            2. You wrote: “an oppressed minority simply taking the power back to the people” and you don’t see a revolutionary context?

            “To throw down oppression with a skilled hand, To take back what is ours –”
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Internationale

          • Anonymous

            Nice try but oh so sad.  Your first statistics were for the whole country, where again blacks are a much smaller % of the population yet commit about the same % of crimes as whites, and your demographics links is for Brooklyn which has a completely different demographic than the rest of the nation and hence completely different crime stats.  You are comparing apples to elephants.  Look up the demographics population of the U.S or the crime stats for Brooklyn and then you can make a comparison.  My original chart was as accurate as you will get, please stop embarrassing yourself.   

          • levp

            New York’s CompStat system does not seem to have any breakdown by race or ethnicity.
            So then we are back to square one: please cite (verifiable) numbers.

            My point is that if this would be Bed-Stuy or East New York, I would agree with you.  But it is not.

            EDIT: what you wrote yourself (“blacks [...] commit about the same % of crimes as whites”) means that, on average for the US, for any given murder the perp is just as likely to be white as he/she is black.

          • Anonymous

            Dude, seriously, take a statistics class or something.  You can look at the demographics of the U.S and the crime statistics you sent me and see the exact same thing that the graph I sent you shows you.

            It doesn’t matter what neighborhood you choose.  Blacks commit violent crimes at a rate that is at a catastrophic rate higher than whites, your own numbers show you that.  Or to simplify, in a population of 100,000 blacks there will be a lot more violent criminals than in a population of 100,000 whites. 

          • levp

            Dude, it depends on the question you are asking (seriously).

            If the question is: “Is this average black person more likely to commit a homicide?”, then your positive answer will (unfortunately) be correct.

            But the question here is the opposite: “Is this average homicide more likely to be committed by a black person?”  Judging by the numbers I cited (unless you have different local numbers), the answer is: “Somewhat (by a few percentage points more likely, to be precise)”.

            See the difference?

          • Anonymous

            In a population where there is 50% black people or even %25 black people a violent crime is more likely to be committed by a black person.  This is the situation in NYC or even Brighton Beach.  In China where there are almost no black people most violent crimes are not committed by blacks.  I say again that the chart I posted was all the information you needed.

      • nolastname

        Life insurance?

        • levp

          Too risky.  Could be some gang initiation thing too, but I vote mafia.

  • a_guu

    sad.
    and ironic that this post follows CompSTAT numbers.

  • RomanM

    Russian mafia – geriatric edition

    [Really sad, was probably her spiteful nephew or something]

  • http://www.google.com/ F_a_b_a

    I leave Sheepshead for few weeks and you savages kill grandmas in bicycle drive-by shootings now? This aint Baltimore.

  • http://www.brucebrodinsky.com Bruce B

    Man, I walk by there damned often. I could easily have been there at that time if it were the summer, I’d come off the boardwalk after jogging and go by that exact spot all the time (for personal reasons). Really scary. Do they have any leads.

    Walked by there this morning, cops still had a setup of sorts there.

  • Blackmale

    Black male did it.

  • JR

    Russians strike again, young, middle aged, old no matter they’re shit… okay maybe 1 out of 10 are okay… 

  • Anonymous

    I don’t understand why was the discussion me and levp were having removed from this thread? 

    • http://www.nedberke.com Ned Berke

      Because, if I can help it, there will be no more comments that are essentially “Must have been a ____ guy” regardless of race, ethnicity, religion or gender. It takes me time to get to moderating the comments – especially as we’re all in overtime working on a Taste of Sheepshead – but when I get to them, they’re gone. And, unfortunately, so too is the followup convo that never should’ve happened.

      Sorry if you don’t like the new policies, but some of the conversations on this site have gotten out of hand. This ain’t the wild west, it’s my business – so please respect that.

      • Anonymous

        Here is the thing Ned, I do respect it.  But a few weeks ago when we were talking financial crimes you yourself were all too happy to provide us with statistics of how many of the big financial frauds are caused by Jews.  And I don’t hear a peep out of you with all the Russian bashing on here.  And that’s fine, facts are facts and I don’t see anything wrong with that even though I am a Russian Jew myself, I know every group has some negatives attached to it.  But, when we talk about blacks and Hispanics somehow that’s not alright with you.  Why is that?  Seems a bit hypocritical.  This is one of the reasons why Liberal thinking is hard to take seriously.  Again, all we were doing was having an intellectual discussion, there was no slurs, or ugly language.  What ever happened to “I disagree with what you have to say but I will defend to the death your right to say it?”  Pretty sad, pretty sad.

        • BrooklynBus

          Don’t really remember the discussion but sometimes its not what you say but how you say it.

          • Anonymous

            I am sure that Ned remembers. I believe it was a discussion on medicaid fraud.  Personally I believe that any opinion that is put forth without threats, cursing or slurs should be allowed to stay, no, must stay, if we are to have an open society.  Otherwise blogs will become scrubbed and filtered like the main stream media has become.  But hell, what do I know, I come from a country where the government told you what your opinion should be and imprisoned or shot you if you thought different.

          • Anonymous

            Here the thread with Ned’s comment:  http://www.sheepsheadbites.com/2011/09/attorney-general-holder-announces-arrests-in-nationwide-medicare-fraud-sweep/

            Actually his wording, and the mentioning of statistics is similar to my comments which were deleted.  

          • http://www.nedberke.com Ned Berke

            I’m confused. I just looked at that. I didn’t mention anything like that. Some guy did, claiming Jews commit 40% more fraud, and I wanted to know where he pulled that BS number from. Turns out, he couldn’t source it. And that’s an excellent reason why that comment should be deleted – since now some other undiscerning person will read that and go, “Hmm, Jews commit 40% of all fraud.” And then he’ll tell his friend that. And his friend to his friend. And that’s how shitty stereotypes based on bullshit, nonexistent science get started.

            No thanks. I should’ve deleted that guy’s post then, and, in the future, I’m comfortable doing exactly that.

        • http://www.google.com/ F_a_b_a

          That’s because Ned is defending his own people.
          Don’t you know Berke is a fine African name? He comes from tribe in Central Africa, tribe that is well know as great meerkat hunters. Ned’s grand-grand-grand-grandfather (also happens to be Ned’s sister) smuggled little Ned in to US in FedEx envelope. Soon after arrival little Ned quickly adopted his meerkat hunting skills in to bamboozling honest, local folks in to obsessively clicking on his website while he collects his CPV and CPC revenues. Fine boy went from Starvin’ Marvin to editor/con man in a matter of days. Soon his elaborate Nigerian scam will make you all empty your bank accounts and all the money will find it’s way in to out little ghetto prince’s pocket.

          • http://www.nedberke.com Ned Berke

            It’s like I’m Truman, and you’re watching my show, Faba.

          • http://www.google.com/ F_a_b_a

            Don’t flatter yourself. If you were Truman your show would have 0.0 share :)

          • nolastname
          • http://www.google.com/ F_a_b_a

            Well with Ned’s height the only thing he can hunt is meerkats. The guy is practically garden gnome size. Last time I herd he got rejected by Priceline commercial.

          • http://www.nedberke.com Ned Berke

            I’m taller than you, aren’t I?

          • http://www.google.com/ F_a_b_a

            You are if you are taller than 5’11”

        • http://www.nedberke.com Ned Berke

          Actually, I deleted comments from this thread that also stated “must have been a Russian hit” or some such drivel. 

          As for the financial frauds caused by Jews, I only vaguely remember it. But, if I recall, I believe I was responding to someone who said something along the lines of all the major financial frauds in history have been caused by jews… or whatever. So I believe I made a counterargument.

          This is also a relatively new policy. I haven’t gone into the archives and deleted what was there – just looking forward.

          The policy that all any discussion of any topic is allowed so long as it doesn’t have “slurs or ugly language” is what we’ve been trying to do for years. The policy was originally anything goes – and people were civil when our readership was small. Then the readership grew, the language worsened and I got more complaints. So no direct attacks, no slurs, no ugly language. The readership is once again larger, and saying things like “Must’ve been a black guy” when it’s a shooting, or “Must’ve been a Russian” when it’s fraud, or “Must’ve been an Asian” when it’s a car accident — well, that’s not ugly language, but it’s an ugly, unfair conclusion that, with the increase in frequency of such comments, have drawn some pretty harsh complaints by people who have been rightly hurt by it. (By the way, I almost always know the race and gender of people involved in the incidents I report about. Those who pull the “Must’ve been…” BS? Far more often wrong than right.)

          Moderating comments is always tricky. I try to be very thoughtful in my approach, and transparent with my policies. It’s imperfect, no doubt, but I’m trying to keep this area welcoming to everyone who can play nice.You’ve got my e-mail, Truth – as does everyone else. I’m not going to continue this discussion here because I know it will become a time suck as everyone invariably weighs in. If anyone has a problem with the manner in which I moderate the comments, you’re more than welcome to e-mail me directly for an explanation (and even to make a case for me to alter the policy).Thanks for understanding.

          • Anonymous

            Okay, since neither one of us wants to have a two day argument here, I guess I will have the final word and people are free to judge themselves

            First here is the link with your comment about Jews:  http://www.sheepsheadbites.com/2011/09/attorney-general-holder-announces-arrests-in-nationwide-medicare-fraud-sweep/

            As anyone can see from the comment section your comment was not a counterargument but a statement.  I am sure you meant what you said, and there is nothing wrong with that.  I wish more people would stand up for their own opinion instead of writing pointless political correct nonsense. 

            As far as the trickiness of moderating comments, this is THE definition of a slippery slope.

            People complain? So what?  First of all you didn’t write the “bad things”.  And second, free speech, heeeeellllo. Since when is someone not liking an opinion grounds for censoring that opinion? Don’t like it don’t read it, or better yet write your own counterargument.  I am sure the person that argued with me is not happy with having their opinions deleted either.   Should there be a ministry of speech and opinion policy like in North Korea?

            At the end of the day it is your site and your business.  However my personal opinion is that letting people speak their minds will in the long run make the site more successful both monetarily and socially.    

          • http://www.google.com/ F_a_b_a

            tl’dr
            Jesus that’s long post. It’s longer than most articles you write.
            Tuth struck a nerve didn’t he?

          • nolastname

            This still bugs the hell out of me. I did e-mail you.
            What about a disclaimer. 
            Tell you the truth your new policy has me taking trolling lessons.
            How to use dif IP’s and such.
            Yup, my opinion is not a nice one at this point. You been bought by the wave of making more money and I understand you have to bend over backwards to appease the numbers you attract. 
            It’s not like you said anything racial…or did you?
            That would be the only reason you should need a retraction. 
            You may be deleting my comments and who knows block me all together in the near future.
            But who gives a fruck.

          • nolastname

            And what are you going to do when you get another Mosque, Gelman or Entitled type story? Will you close the comment section all together?

      • http://www.google.com/ F_a_b_a

        Wait what? We can’t make racist, blanket statements anymore? So what’s the point then? You must be tripping honky! We can still say honky right? Because if we can I have really nice word we can use for them… hmmm how you say it? Oh yeh, none-honky folks.

        Shiiit can’t be racist on Internets…What’s next, I be going outside to play ball? Read a book or some shit? Hell no! You know playin’ ball an’ readin’ is kryptonite for my people.

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