Below are two more videos sent to us taken just moments after the Brighton Beach shooting. These videos are taken from within the crowd that gathered around the victims, and is much more graphic than the video we ran earlier. Please be advised as to the nature of these videos before viewing.

The first is from commenter 718Russian_ak:

The second was sent to us by localbroker. The videographer is unknown:

Additional coverage:
(Brighton Beach Shooting Wounds Five, Two Critically)
(Brighton Beach shooting: View photos of the scene, as police canvassed the area.)
(Brighton Beach shooting: View a video from a restaurant patron taken moments after the shooting.)

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=839675042 Holly Renee Reinhardt

    Someone’s shot and this scumbag’s thinking about being famous on World Star Hip-hop? This isn’t an armless man trashing a south beach hotel lobby, ffs.

    • Braziianmod3l

      worldstarhiphop should be shut down, getting people to come to your website by posting chaos and the deaths of innocent people is truly evil.

      • Luis

        ..what does this topic have to do with worldstarhiphop…even if it is where you saw it first….dont be mad cause worldstarhiphop is so successful .worldstar is just the best….there’s a million websites that are IDENTICAL as far as letting people upload the dumbest things..and asking for feedback ….same difference !! …… ……..exposing the more serious topics IN THE COUNTRY ….showing documents that are supposed to be for precints only…courts only…top secret stuff..why dont you talk about that??? maybe because you enjoy it…so that being said …. ..yo think to mention only worldstarhiphop  or only know about them because they’re a success…….hater…where u from …brazii???.. ok
        bklyn here…coney island….
        btw….. shouts to TMZ and WORLDSTARHIPHOP.COM….i visit these sites faithfully …daily.
        ALSO CHECK:    thisis50.com / vladtv.com / ilovepwnage.com / hulu.com            /ovguide.com/

  • Andrew Kent

    Nice, if crude, attempts at cinéma vérité, although I nearly threw my neck out trying to watch the second one.  Now that everyone has a camcorder in their pocket, how about a little Videography-101? 

    • Thebronxbomber

      yeah theres also i button on the side that says rotate

    • Subway Stinker

      Wasnt Andrew Kent the man who ran around with the werewolf of London?  er Warren Zevon. ?

  • Anonymous

    I decided to go to Brighton Beach today at 2 PM.  I walked down Brighton 6th Street where I intended to park myself on the beach.  But when I saw the unusual crowds on the boardwalk and on the beach, I decided to walk further down to Brighton 4th where it was less crowded.  Now when I say crowded, I mean crowded.  The Boardwalk at Brighton 6th was as crowded as it gets in Coney Island where there is no space to walk and I haven’t seen so many people on the sand on a weekday since the 1950s. By todays standard’s, it was as crowded as it gets on July 4th.

    I saw 2 patrolmen on a vehicle on the sand a little after 2.  At about 4:30 I decided to walk to Coney Island Avenue with the sand. There were wall to wall people. About 30 minutes before the shooting I remarked to myself that it just didn’t look safe, although everything seemed peaceful. I could see things getting out of hand very quickly if one person for example would make a remark about someone’s girlfriend. The atmosphere just seemed explosive because of the concentration of people. I also was wondering why other than the 2 officers I saw 2 1/2 hours earlier, why there wasn’t a single patrolman in sight and how quickly they would arrive should something happen.

    When I got back to Manhattan Beach, it also looked very crowded with full bus loads still dropping off people at the beach at 5:45 PM, but I could see about 3 or 4 patrol cars on the promenade. I turned on the TV and heard about the shooting.

    • Subway Stinker

      something wrong with the Discus system tonight?  I cant get in to comment, so this is the next best thing.  Tonight at the Atlantc Ave station I encountered dozens of people in beach attire, most noticably young women still in their bikini tops heading off the Q and B lines toward the IRT systems.  Their exodus was due to the rainstorms I thought, having no idea about the gunplay. Then aboard the Q a mildly inebriated middle aged woman was rattling on about chaos down at Brighton Beach Avenue subway station.   I thought this was due to it being Brooklyn Day. Then when I got to my stop there were about a dozen uniformed and plain clothes coppers in front of the station.  I finally found about the gunfight around 8.45 pm.

  • Pizdagriz

    Ohh Please, Keep your ghetto bullshit in your ghetto, don’t bring it out here. There is a specific area for gang violence, shooting and other shit called PROJECTS!
    Hope none of the NORMAL BRIGHTON BEACH residents got hurt!

    • R3ckless

      no bitch oh please what normal person would care if it was a project person or some one that lives in a house u are really fucking dumb get a life u fucking idiot may god bless your dumb assss

    • Sjenny C_88

      So your pretty much saying keep the shooting in the pjs… Nice so F*** all the inoccent families who live in the pj’s that might become innocent bystanders your such a low life real talk. How about encourage people to stop the violence dumbass

      • Br4ziianmod3l

        i understand what shes saying though it may sound wrong but all the gang and ghetto ass lowlives are coming out and ruining everyones good time, why you coming to other neighborhoods to start trouble in the first place, i live in the ghetto and even i don’t wanna go to the beach and see the ghetto why all the trouble gotta start the weekend of the puerto rican day parade, it’s ghetto hoodrats like that giving us a bad name thats why people get hostile towards us coming in their neighborhoods just to have a good time cuz of these idiots that don’t know how to act

    • Braziianmod3l

      and it doesn’t matter who got hurt, the point is they got hurt, tell that to the mother who’s daughter died yesterday I’m sure she wasn’t a “normal brighton beach resident” smh

  • Guest

    макаки

  • Quiara Rivas

    I was so close to this. Im never going to forget all those gunshots and even more not knowing where it was coming from/ =/ my hopes and lovs for all those hurt.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_AETAOWBMNWGQOI6XC2WAJEYVSY JohnF

    what a drunk russian scumbag the uploader is

  • Anonymous Bluffer

    Blacks shooting each other and dumb Russians videotaping it… I <3 Brighton Beach

    • qwertyuio

      I would be happy if blacks shoot only each other but unfortunately they kill innocent ppl as well
      and its not Russians fault
      blame your goddamn democratic government     

      • Ibedatsexychula

        you would be happy if only blacks shot each other? You are a racist psycho. Many people of different races and creeds kill innocent people you idiot. Maybe I should blame the democratic government for bringing and raising idiots that think like you, narrow-minded idiots who have nothing smart to say so just stay shut.

        • Anonymous

          Thank you Ibedat. This racist slime ball needs to be thrown off this site. Ned, please remove these offensive and filthy comments from this thread.

          • http://www.nedberke.com Ned Berke

            I’ve been going in and deleting a few at a time. However, I can’t keep up with it, and I’ve got other news to report.

            This kind of reaction is a shame and an embarrassment to our community.

          • street

            that’s right shooting is not a shame in your community
            big deal

          • street

            btw will you also delete these racist comments about “dumb russians”? hope you will

          • http://www.nedberke.com Ned Berke

            Yes.

            FYI – We have a poll over on Facebook about how I should handle these comments. So far, the majority says I should let them all be. Come vote: 

            http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sheepshead-Bites/125215944173471

          • cheyenne

            What do you expect?  Are we suppose to cry each and every night a black person kills another black person?  You say it happens to all people, yet the facts are that the majority, an overwhelming majority are blacks who choose to shoot others.  Now, I understand why, oppression, racism, etc., yet you are truly ignorant to ignore the obvious.

          • Anonymous

            Jeez yo, Racism still big in this country?

            i thought that was over with back in 1970….

          • street

            You won’t believe how racism is HUGE in this country. Racism against white people. I would not give a dime for any whitepants walking after dusk in a black neighborhood. Vice verse will be fine especially assuming that there is no “white” neighborhood in the city.

             

      • Exny41

        what the hell has the goverment have to do with theses animals and monkeys  shooting each other. you can hear in the tape the police trying to helpand these animals yelling fuck you .

      • yc

        As a Russian-speaker, it’s terrible to see this kind of thoughtless comment coming from someone who identifies the same as I do. If we talk about who commits murder, the last two multiple murders in this neighborhood were by Russians. So perhaps we as a community should just try to do good things for each other and seal that image in our neighbors’ minds, rather than this. Egh. 

    • qwertyuio

      I would be happy if blacks shoot only each other but unfortunately they kill innocent ppl as well
      and its not Russians fault
      blame your goddamn democratic government     

    • JenJames1987

      Dumb Russians? Really?  Those nasty Black M*** F******  shouldn’t be on OUR boardwalk in front of one of the most amazing restaurants where me and my family have enjoyed countless meals and share many many memories on the boardwalk. NOT ONE of those memories included nasty Black M*** F******on the boardwalk since they should be there. Let them stay in the projects and don’t ruin our world because your mommy and daddy think its “cool” to be gangster and you uneducated dumb fuckers go buy a gun and fire off in my hood? Hope he gets LIFE, you disgust me and THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIANS that black M** F**** did it all on his own. Stay out the hoods you don’t belong in. Got it?

      • Anonymous

        My friends also said the same thing. Let them stay in their area.

        • Frankie25

          we should stay in our own area?  how bout u go back to your piece of shit ass land in europe

          • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

            Some of my ancestors were Native Americans from Long Island tribes. One was a chief of the Shinnecocks. Therefore, I shall now pass an edict. Anyone who tells anyone else that they have no right to be in a place will be immediately departed. If you are a Native American and say that I shall see that you are censured by your tribal counsel.

            After 400 years we should work this stuff out.

          • Braziianmod3l

            Dude they can’t go back to their own country, don’t you know they would have to stay in a long line for bread and they will get shot in the head for saying their opinion on they government that run’s their country. Oh and they freeze most of the winter because you know they don’t have proper housing and they’re poor as hell and their children would be subjected to child prostitution and labor. I’m just saying.

          • Katya

            In just saying that I lost more than half my family in the holocaust and my family and I were abused and discriminated because of who we are. My great gma lost 8 kids during this ordeal only 4 survived. We came to America and worked until we were for years and years and we make good lives for our selves … just saying.

          • Braziianmod3l

            And what exactly are you doing now??/ DISCRIMINATING PEOPLE FOR WHO THEY ARE. Really think about what you say because you just contradicted yourself. Judging people based on the color of their skin and where they come from, As a matter of fact now that you described your background It shocks me that you would even group us all in the same catorgory to say we need to stay in “our own hood” discriimination is disgusting and your just doing it like it’s fine.

          • Braziianmod3l

            Not all of us come to Brighton beach to cause trouble, Get that through your head.

      • Frankie25

        hey jenjames u racist piece of shit im black and im highly educated an so is everyone in my family, this has nothing to do with race  white ppl commit the most horendous crimes known in america all the time, most serial kilers are white  u faggat bitch, i hav a bachelors an geting another in nursing and currently in the nurse anesthetist program  u faggat ur racist ass should have been shot instead of that innocent girl,  u fuckin racists always try to bring up blacks being dumb and etc, 

        • ilovebrightonbeach

          All hes saying is that niggers should stay there in their own neighborhoods and stay out of normal clean neighborhoods where niggers don’t belong. Oh and blacks are dumb, its science.

      • Braziianmod3l

        it’s true because if you go to russia there is like ZERO violence and corruption, oh and the russian mafia happens to be a myth made up by minority america to make european people look uncivil. Yep SMDH, This entire statement was sarcastic btw just in case you actually believed that bullshit.

  • Joe

    Are you serious? The guy in the twitvid is pretending to be all tough saying “if one of these cops touch me again…” shut up it’s people like you that cause crap like this to happen. Black people need to get rid of their god damn ego, and stop shooting because of dumb shit like stepping on your air jordans. Black culture says it’s cooler to commit crimes than graduate college. If you go to jail you are the man. This is why you see stupid uneducated thugs doing this stuff. No parenting in the black community anymore NONE. ZIP. ZILCH. ZERO. Black america wake the fuck up.

  • nolastname

    Some interesting tattoos in the second video. What does the “212″ stand for?
    Manhattan area code/212 Motors on Knapp St??

  • Bugg

    The cops and EMTs are trying to help these shooting victims, and this dipshit with the phone  camera is more owrried about the evil awful cops, a number of whom happen to be African-American. Evil Whitey the Cop didn’t shoot thes people. Where do people this stupid live? Knock the Russians who live in Brighton all you want, but this would never happen if you let them and the Manhattan Beach crowd turn both into private beaches. This idiocy doens’t happen in belle Harbor nor Breezy Point, and they drink as much as anyone. Is there ANY parenting going on in the inner city?

    Dirivng by on my bike this AM the whole boarwalk is still closed for investigation. The beah there too is roped off for investigation. Remarkable how much garabge these people left there. It’s a small thing, but how does any civilized person go to a beach or a park and just leave piles of refuse knowing someone else has to pick it up? Makes me think more and more despite all the bad stuff many write here about Manhattan Beach trying to stop the hordes from descedning on their beach, they may have a point.

    • Guest

      Just take a look at any video from Africa,.. shit everywhere, piles of garbage, people pooping in the street, ohh and dont forget.. WAR every country on that continent is enveloped in some sort of conflict. that’s chernie for you.

    • Eyes on the Street

      black people, even white some white people would be shot dead if they came into Breezy point… just sayin

  • qwertyuio

    send them to Harvard not jail
    continue to build plenty law rent apartments for them with pools and gardens
    pay your taxes for their benefits for all generation
    let them ruin out our schools by affirmative action
    don’t call cops when you see them selling drugs in your neighborhood
    turn your face away when you see them doing love in public place
    be quiet don’t say anything when bunch of them messing up in a subway yelling like monkeys
    be tolerate
    then enjoy your life and don’t cry after get shot
     
     

    • BigBadLandlord

      that beach is a fucking complete and utter disgrazia- like “caddie day” at the pool in caddyshack. those kids collectively need a serious old school BEATING. Who the fuck produces that much garbage? fuckin slobs, thats who. Disrespectful motherfuckers who dont live here and dont give a fuck. if i lived by the beach i’d be furious.

      Oh great job DOE. instead of making the kids break the law, and be truant for cut day, you morons give them a day off to do whatever the fuck they want, Brilliant!

      You assholes are completely to blame- “bklyn-queens day”? fucking joke

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

        Excuse me. 
        This is a LEGAL holiday, and I’d ask you to respect it. It is a commemoration of the Union Of Sunday Schools in 1834. (Though the parade actually began in 1829.) It is one of the few specifically Protestant holidays in existence. NY State Consolidated Law, Article 52, Section 2586:Anniversary day as a holiday in the public schools of the borough of Brooklyn and in the borough of Queens, city of New York. The first Thursday in June in each year, except in those years when the first Thursday in June occurs in the same week with Memorial day, and in such years the second Thursday in June, known as anniversary day, and celebrated in commemoration of the organization of Sunday schools, is hereby made and declared to be a holiday in all the public schools in the borough of Brooklyn and in the borough of Queens, city of New York, and the board of education of such city is hereby authorized and directed to cause all the public schools in such boroughs to be closed on such day.

        • Brooklynmommyofthree

          When I attended Lincoln in the early 90′s – Brooklyn Day was NOT a legal holiday and you’d have to CUT on that day…. and use the excuse “it’s brooklyn day – everyone else is cutting”….

          The difference 20 years makes!  I AM GETTING OLD!

          • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

            Nope, the law I cited was passed in 1958.

    • BigBadLandlord

      that beach is a fucking complete and utter disgrazia- like “caddie day” at the pool in caddyshack. those kids collectively need a serious old school BEATING. Who the fuck produces that much garbage? fuckin slobs, thats who. Disrespectful motherfuckers who dont live here and dont give a fuck. if i lived by the beach i’d be furious.

      Oh great job DOE. instead of making the kids break the law, and be truant for cut day, you morons give them a day off to do whatever the fuck they want, Brilliant!

      You assholes are completely to blame- “bklyn-queens day”? fucking joke

    • BigBadLandlord

      that beach is a fucking complete and utter disgrazia- like “caddie day” at the pool in caddyshack. those kids collectively need a serious old school BEATING. Who the fuck produces that much garbage? fuckin slobs, thats who. Disrespectful motherfuckers who dont live here and dont give a fuck. if i lived by the beach i’d be furious.

      Oh great job DOE. instead of making the kids break the law, and be truant for cut day, you morons give them a day off to do whatever the fuck they want, Brilliant!

      You assholes are completely to blame- “bklyn-queens day”? fucking joke

  • Hfhdfh

    Let them kill each other. The less black people in the world the better

  • guest

    the girl in the black with the red shorts didnt make it..how sad these days its not safe to let your children outside….gotta pray for a safer world!

  • Bugg

    One more thing about this “keepin’ it real” idiocy herein depicted; grant you that the “N” word is awful. Why do morons use like these peope use it like a pronoun? Sadly the pwoers that be would rather talk about racism and guns being sold down south-2 complete nonissues in 2011- than the mess that is inner city Afircan-American underclasss culture-drug abuse and sales, gangs and gun violence, hostility to education and out of wedlock births and intergenerational welfare dependence. As noted Marine Park JHS graduate Chirs Rock says-keppin’ it real-DUMB.

    Condolences to the victims anf their loved ones. Utterly senseless murder over sneakers and looks.

  • Anonymous

    So we can’t smoke on the beaches and police and the nanny government can tell us what to do but gun rights fools can justify their positions in the name of 2nd amendment rights? More time needs to be spent by the NYPD and the government in general on preventing the definite harm done by the possession of weapons of mass destruction by citizens.

    • Local Broker

      Yeah im sure the shooter was carrying a registered firearm had a concealed carry permit and shot in self defense. This is a perfect example of why law abiding citizens should be able to own and carry a gun if they choose to. Its pretty obvious that cops cant protect people they are never there when you need them and by the time they do get there its to late. Look at the videos when the cops arrive they are shocked and dont know what to do and how to handle the situation it was a fucking mess. I have gone shooting a hundred times and recently started taking my wife and i would trust her with a gun before any cop. It bothers me that the only people that have guns in this city are cops and bad guys. I am not saying every one should be able to just walk into a store and buy a gun but the laws here are a joke. Brooklynbus mentioned he has never seen crowds like this before and i have not either. There were thousands of people on the beach from all over the city and you would think that the cops would realize this and have a real presence on the beach and boardwalk. Nope. 1 cop from what i heard was at that location and was hiding during the shooting. There should have been 5-10 cops at every entrance to the boardwalk Brighton 15th, CIA, 6th, 4th, 2nd, OP, West 5th you get the point. A couple years ago when cops were turning kids away from MB people were freaking out how can they do this they are only targeting black kids. Well its mid-day mid-week and they shouldnt be there when they should be in school. We should all hope that people learn from this and have a better understanding on how to deal with such large crowds for the safety of the people that live here and the ones that come to enjoy the beach. A gun didnt kill that girl some lowlife POS did.   

      • Anonymous

        Wow, your Right.

        Can we do anything to change this? Cause i feel unsafe about even taking the train to work, or School!

        • Local Broker

          It seems like cops just dont care. How often do you hear about a cop preventing a crime from happening? You do hear about random people stepping in or noticing something and then cops take all the credit. Gelman was not stopped by the cops he was taken down by a guy he was  going to attack while the cops watched and then stepped in when they felt it was safe thats why that guy is suing the city now.
          How often do you hear about TD banks getting robbed? I have never. You know why because they hire off duty cops to stand there in uniform and it prevents robbers from coming in. They know there is a cop there with a gun not a rent a cop. If bad guys knew that most random people walked around armed they would think twice about trying to jack you. The 60th pct should get double the man power in the summer time between the whole stretch of beach and the amusement area a shit load of people come here this time of year and there should be a presence to let people know dont fuck around. If there can be cops standing in subway stations in the city with assault rifles they should be here as well not to scare people but to deter bad guys. If i cant carry a gun in this city then i want my tax money paying for my families security in my own neighborhood.   

      • Anonymous

        If we wish to speak to the subject of racism and the behavior of certain “races” we should also speak as to how they are treated by the police. When you have a crowd of people on the beach such as was seen on thursday it is most like that most of them were of one race. Yet the West Indian parade which is a celebration of caribbean culture and features primarily people of a race other than that which was no doubt at Brighton Beach, the NYPD comes out in massive force. Stupid gun toting idiots know no racial barriers and the NYPD should have been out there in as much force as they will be on Eastern Parkway, not hiding in the shadows. They must have assumed nothing would happen such as this in Brighton Beach. If it isn’t some crazy gun idiots it’s some fool with a knife around here.
        It’s all very wonderful that your wife would be trustworthy with a gun yet there are no mandatory training regulations for those who possess firearms. It’s left to the gun owners to decide to do the sensible thing and train themselves in the proper handling and storage of firearms. Our government is so interested in saving us from ourselves yet allows us to put ourselves in potential harms way by permitting a laisez faire attitude when it comes to such more lethal weapons then cigarettes.

        • Local Broker

          I never brought up race in what i said. Otherwise my answer above to ShadowLock is pretty much the same thing i would say to you. 

          • Anonymous

            Never said you did. The focus of your comments was more about Gun Rights. My response is about Gun Responsibility and the contradictory priorities of the NYPD.

  • Anonymous

    So we can’t smoke on the beaches and police and the nanny government can tell us what to do but gun rights fools can justify their positions in the name of 2nd amendment rights? More time needs to be spent by the NYPD and the government in general on preventing the definite harm done by the possession of weapons of mass destruction by citizens.

  • Katya

    These dumb chornaye have invaded our beaches and neighborhoods, last year they did much damage to Manhattan Beach, sitting on the Bay I would see constant disgusting chornaye trying to make it to public transportation. They are dirty loud and have no respect. As if they were raised in the ZOO :) and I’m not referring to all you chornaye but most of you are absolutely nasty. Please stop coming to our hood and making it look bad.

    • Anonymous

      Darling Katia,
      While I do like your name very much I have to remind you that it’s not your beach and not your bay and not your hood. It belongs to chornayeas as much as it belongs to you, me and everyone else.
      However if you would like to have chornaye free environment I suggest you buy a house, preferably on Manhattan Beach, you will fit right in with many other owners. Please make sure you buy a house with a bathtub, fill it with wonderful cold, dirty water and sprinkler cat litter around the bath tub. Wulala, you have your own private Coney Island Beach with  chornaye free.

      • Anonymous

        ROFL

        Owe you a beer for that statement.

      • stree

        it would be perfect for me to buy such a house even if I am not Katya, Unfortunately, I’ll be never ever ever able to afford it, because of the incredibly high amount of taxes I pay to support their welfare, food stamps and other benefits. I work day and night to pay my and their rent and they shoot me to express gratitude . Now I even don’t have place to take a rest, neither my children, we never feel safe on the street.

        • Anonymous

          Their are people living on MB now right? And they pay taxes and still be able to afford to live there. That can only mean you don’t make enough money to live on MB. So don’t blame chornaye, blame yourself for not being able to earn  enough to buy your dream house.

          • street

            why do i have to work my ass out while other ppl enjoy their lives living in gangstas paradise ?

          • Anonymous

            You more than welcome to stop working your ass off and live in gangstas paradise. It’s a free country man and don’t worry I will stay pay taxes and support you. After all I do not want to live in gangstas paradise, it’s not very paradise like to me.

          • street

            thanks the gang would not accept me cuz i dont mind to kill anybody

          • street

            thanks the gang would not accept me cuz i dont mind to kill anybody

        • Anonymous

          Move to Alaska if you don’t like it here.

          • street

             believe it or not, i am seriously thinking about it, i probably will

      • Katya

        I already did buy a House 10 years ago with money that I made working my ass off and in the summer time my area is infested with adolescents screaming and cursing acting like they have never respected a  neighborhood or individuals. I’m glad there trying to pass laws now to make Brighton Beach a private paid beach which I think is an amazing idea so that most of you cant afford it.

        • Braziianmod3l

          That’s really a disgusting mentality.

        • Anonymous

          I’m looking forward to having Brighton Beach a private paid beach. In fact I want it to be the most exclusive beach in the world. It must be so exclusive and so expensive that you will need to take second mortgage to cover the beach fee.  Good luck Katya.

    • Guest

      sounds like you’re talking about Russians… 

  • abizyani

    wish these niggers didn’t invade our neighborhoods. go kill each other in ur own hoods u waste of lives

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

    Where are these trolls coming from? Most of these racists haven’t got a thing to say about anything else.

    I say ban all of them. The lack of civil discussion is appalling.

    • Local Broker

      Yeah its getting a little out of hand. Im sure Ned is on it but he has his work cut out for him. Maybe you can turn off the comments to people that are not registered with with disqus.

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

        He might have to close discussion on the articles. A small number of the worse ones have Discus accounts.

        One can’t discuss this anyway because of the avalanche of redundant comments by these people.

        • Local Broker

          I dont think he should close the discussions. Its only a few comments that are filled with racial slurs and cursing that bring nothing to the table need to go.

          • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

            Ned has already said elsewhere on this page that there are so many he’s having trouble keeping up with it.

          • nolastname

            Ned said the majority of people voted to leave the comment be. Look back.
            http://www.facebook.com/pages/

          • nolastname

            Ned said the majority of people voted to leave the comment be. Look back.
            http://www.facebook.com/pages/

          • Anonymous

            Think sheepshead bites should be made like a Forum LOL.

            Say we all chip in 5 bucks for the make sheepsheadbites.com into a Forum Site.

            This way cuss words and words like n word won’t make it threw.  and banning takes seconds to the persons IP

          • Anonymous

            Think sheepshead bites should be made like a Forum LOL.

            Say we all chip in 5 bucks for the make sheepsheadbites.com into a Forum Site.

            This way cuss words and words like n word won’t make it threw.  and banning takes seconds to the persons IP

          • Local Broker

            I dont mind cursing or anything else people say its just annoying when people bring nothing to the discussion and write 2 lines of curses. If you want to give your opinion and fill it with hate thats ok as long as its on topic.

    • street

      Anything what? We can discuss birds, flowers, and candies here, but unfortunately the topic is about shooting. Try to think WHO did the shooting and you will understand the rest.
      May be, or may be not. 
      Besides, I got really mad when ppl started to blame that person who posted the video, acting like he is more dumb than those who killed people.

      • Braziianmod3l

        Why would you post a video of a shooting on a public website where the victim’s families will probably come across the footage, have some respect for the victim’s family who are probably seeing this as week speak, from experiance it’s damaging to see footage or a discussion of a loved one’s demise.  

        • street

          I personally would not post such a video
          But why wouldn’t these killers have some respect for the victims and their families?
          You cant blame the person who shoot the video more than people who shoot with guns.  

          • Braziianmod3l

            I’m not blaming them for anything but the footage, not for the shooting, and I’m pretty they uploaded this footage for their own selfish reasons, first off WorldStarHipHop really? Most people know that website is used to degrade and promote violence, they even have footage of pregnant women getting beat, why the hell would you post this footage on WorldStarHipHop and disrepect the victims family, that website is a disgusting website for people to earn a little fame for posting crazy footage.

          • street

             Once again why dont you blame these gangstas who started this? or you OK with it. Is only footage that drive you angry?

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

        I get angry too. But keyboards have delete buttons. I can write something outrageous, and then delete it because I know it’s not civil or productive.

        The TOPIC is a shooting. The topic is not the so-called behavior of an entire group of people.

        A few months back we had multiple murders done by two individuals in two separate set of events. Both were of Russian ethnicity. (I do not care to engage in breaking that down into sub-groups) Some people, quite wrongly,used these events as proof that Russians were undesirables. 

        There isn’t one group out there that is immune from attack from others. Most often those who would attack members of other groups are appalled when their group is negatively characterized, and right so. Hate spews more hate. Eventually it spills over into the real world, and more people get hurt, this time perhaps in a serious and measurable manner. The spiral continues to worsen.

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

        I get angry too. But keyboards have delete buttons. I can write something outrageous, and then delete it because I know it’s not civil or productive.

        The TOPIC is a shooting. The topic is not the so-called behavior of an entire group of people.

        A few months back we had multiple murders done by two individuals in two separate set of events. Both were of Russian ethnicity. (I do not care to engage in breaking that down into sub-groups) Some people, quite wrongly,used these events as proof that Russians were undesirables. 

        There isn’t one group out there that is immune from attack from others. Most often those who would attack members of other groups are appalled when their group is negatively characterized, and right so. Hate spews more hate. Eventually it spills over into the real world, and more people get hurt, this time perhaps in a serious and measurable manner. The spiral continues to worsen.

        • street

          What about old russian lady shot in front of her house by poor little black drug dealer at coney island project?
          What about of our olders who complain all the time of being robed and stubbed in the same project ?
          And police and society don’t care about it.
          Couple of russian idiots cannot beat it up, besides when they commit a crime they definitely go to jail and nobody advocate them. Unlike this.
          What have happened here is a consequence of events, actions, and laws. 

          • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

            Did EVERY black person commit these crimes? Do they all commit these crimes? There are white people who sell drugs. There are white people that rob people on the street. 

            Consequence is the result of a direct line of events. That direct line does not involve an entire group of people.

          • street

            I did not say anything about “all”, its stupid. However, you cant deny that crimes which committed of one so called “group of people” is not proportional that committed by other group. Look at the statistic and take off pink glasses.
            I am out of here, you can buy this shit if you like it.

          • Braziianmod3l

            The statistics were the same decades ago with an entirely different race of people, why don’t you stop pretending that before black people were getting heat for being violence, it was the different groups of european people(Irish, Italian and Russian)  

          • street

             I have my own eyes open and see what I see. And I am not only one who see same thing, also other people who comment here. You should deal with it and stop acting like nothing we say is true. You cant make us keep our mouth shut anymore. Take your head off the sand and look around. Pulling off your usual “racism” card will not work someday. Only stupid liberals who live behind high gates with bodyguards  can buy it .
            Best regards.

          • Braziianmod3l

            You were actually pulling the racism card, and by opening your mouth do you mean that pointing the fingers at a particular racial group causing hostility then by all means keep it shut. Btw you can go join the KKK if thats how you feel, they are always looking for new recuits.

          • street

             There is no kkk even exists now but gangs do 
            I did not start racist comments here those who shit on russians did
            nobody said a word about it people only started to cry after their own race got touched

          • Braziianmod3l

            That is utter Bullshit! Minorities are usually on the news for commiting violence, but people of cacausian descent are on the news for being victims, There have  even been discussions on how most crimes commited against caucasions are more likly to be publized then minorites that are victimized for the same crimes, example, Laci Peterson(God Bless her and her son’s soul) was a huge story, that same year A hispanic woman who was also 8 monthes pregnant was also murdered and dumped in the river and her husband also went on the run. Hardly anyone heard about that. Stop bringing Race into the discussion because it honestly all your doing is grouping up an entire people for the actions of few

          • street

             Dont mix up domestic crime with hate crime. Btw who do you call “minority” – blacks? LMAO

          • Braziianmod3l

            Who was talking about hate crime??? And I’m considered a Minority in your book so yes. As far as hate crime that is an entirely new topic that you seem to have brought up and for what reason I don’t know.

          • street

            those who called Russians names bring it here that was ok nobody called them racist

  • Brooklynmommyofthree

    Every year the same thing happens… kids come to the Brighton & Manhattan beach (from other neighborhoods) and fight and kill/hurt eachother… wasn’t it two years ago that there was a shooting (1 dead) on the Q train between Sheepshead & Neck Road .. on Brooklyn Day too?   It is getting out of hand…

    ALSO – got off at Ave U at 6:30 pm last night to a double-stabbing at the station from the same sorts of folks in the beach incident…where’s the story on that one?

    • Braziianmod3l

      It’s true, as much as it hurts to say They do come from other neighborhoods and start trouble, But people need to realize that not all people that come from these neighborhoods are coming to act up, we’re just coming to get away and enjoy ourselves, you can’t judge an entire group of people for the actions of  a few. 

      • Brooklynmommyofthree

        With all due respect – I disagree.  They do come looking for trouble and acting like fools.  Before the Ave U train station work was complete i would walk to Kings Highway every morning.  And on my way I would see all the kids (that were black) that come from other neighboods to go the Cunningham walking down the street throwing their garbage on the ground and acting like idiots.  The kids from our neighborhood don’t do that, they don’t litter like that, they don’t behave like that.  People talk about how dirty the projects are …but they are the ones that are dirty’ing it up (we don’t go in the projects and pee in their stairwells and throw garbage all over their lawns)….

        • Braziianmod3l

          Not all of us do, That was my Point, I nor my friends should not be judged or scrutinized for the actions of a few, there are plenty of people that come from brooklyn/queens to Brighton Beach just to have a good time, My friend was running yesterday because of the shooting and all he was trying to do was cool off on a hot day. That’s the problem everybody wants to point the finger at a race not realizing that it’s not a racial issue, It’s a economic problem and like I said before In the 20′s,30′s, and 40′s it was a different race of people being blamed and judged for the actions of others and they lived in poor neighborhoods, think what you want but unless people start realizing THE REAL ROOT of the problem, nothing will ever get solved and racial tensions will continue to rise.

  • Braziianmod3l

    Anyways despite people pointing fingers yet have nothing to say about the victim or the victim’s family, I truly do pray for them because believe or not a young girl who happened to be black (because it seems like most of you want to point out the fact that the shooters were black) died as a result of the shooting, she did not deserve it and she was only trying enjoy a day at the beach.

  • Anonymous

    I can’t believe there are so many bigots and twisted minds in our neighborhood.
    I guess not knowing many people in the bay over the last few years, has become a good thing.

    • http://www.nedberke.com Ned Berke

      This is one of the reasons we haven’t moderated the site as much as some would like. It’s disgusting that people behave like this and think like this, and those of us who don’t associate with such misguided people quickly forget that it exists. It does exist, and it’s always just simmering under the surface. That needs to be exposed so it can be addressed.

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

        I think we had a case of overexposure here. For starters it may have hurt some of the people who were being attacked as members of a group. People don’t get used to be demonized, ever. Secondly, bigots here now know that they are not the only ones. Three, we have been teaching tolerance for 40 years now, but those who wish to be negative will continue to be negative.

        I believe that this has run its course for the moment. In the end all that was accomplished was a catharsis for people who have been holding back on the expression of sentiments considered unacceptable. This may not have been a good thing.

  • Braziianmod3l

    This is the last comment I will be posting, Every person can point the finger list “stats” on poor black neighborhoods, talk about how black people are uncivil make up factual information, and simply try to segragate Brighton Beach(because thats what some of you are hoping will happen once the beach goes private) But the TRUTH does not lie within what color skin you have or the history of black violence because every race has their own bloody past, despite popular belief slaves were treated with about the same respect the victims were treated with by the people who shot them, correction, slaves were treated worse, so while the race card is being drawn a mother has to bury her daughter and only a few people offered their condolences because they were too busy telling other people they were not welcome and comparing black and white history of violence.  

  • Anonymous

    Local broker made a Valid statement, i think it’s time to get a Gun License for Protection.

    But here’s a question which has been bothering me all day…  Persay i heard the gun shots and saw the killer, if i would have shot and injured him would i be in any trouble? i mean i figure since i shot the shooter originally?

  • Andrew Kent

    OMG! I can’t believe all the hatred and racism (not to mention bad spelling and grammar) on this thread, but I’ll refrain from commenting further because I wouldn’t know where to begin. As for privatizing Brighton and/or Manhattan Beach, fuggeddaboutit! Ain’t never gonna happen, unless the City goes bankrupt and its creditors foreclose on our public facilities.

    Privatizing any of our parks or beaches will require legislative approval and widespread public and media support, which, given that most of the users of these facilities are, by local definition, “outsiders,” who come here to enjoy what they do not have in their own neighborhoods, where are the votes going to come from?

    I’m tired of listening to a tiny, but vocal, claque of nouveau riche “Nimbies,” many themselves foreign-born, bleat about how “their” community has to be insulated from other New Yorkers because a small handful of unsocialized gangbangers comes here and wreak havoc. Even if the City could lease out the beaches as one giant “concession,” with turnstiles, private security, and stadium-like house rules, a day at the beach could cost more than Yankee tickets and still wouldn’t approach the cost of replacing the tax-supported services that currently secure and maintain these resources.

    The solution to the crime and violence problem is not exclusion, but more and better policing, and, perhaps, some kind of safe occupancy limitation as we have with indoor premises. The NYPD, as well as Parks Department officers, should patrol the beaches looking for suspicious activity (and, yes, even illegal smoking, because that, too, can precipitate disputes), and disorderly persons should be dealt with swiftly and firmly, either with expulsion from the beach or arrest.  Equipping enforcement personnel with binoculars and cameras, and installing many more and better security cameras on the boardwalk, will not only detect crime and preserve evidence, but will discourage evil-doers from committing acts that are likely to be witnessed and documented.

    I’m not sure how “security checkpoints” would play out, as the beach is public property and we still have Fourth Amendment search and seizure limitations. It would probably be illegal, not to mention nearly impossible, to search or wand even fully dressed beachgoers carrying backpacks, as doing this expeditiously would probably necessitate some degree of potentially unlawful profiling. But an increased police presence, and forcing potential troublemakers to more greatly interface with “The Man,” will have the effect of encouraging them to go elsewhere just as bright lights discourage cockroaches from congregating on one’s kitchen counter.

    But handing our public spaces over to private industry simply because we can’t manage them is bad public policy. The parks belong to the people, and, because we are served by a government of the people, the parks, and the City’s government, belong to us – all of us. Brighton Beach and Manhattan Beach are not gated communities like Seagate. The idea is to cage the criminals, not ourselves. As Ben Franklin said so many years ago, “He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.”

    • http://www.nedberke.com Ned Berke

      Hear, hear! (Except maybe the smoking thing. But that’s something else.)

      Thanks for bringing it back to the topic, real issues at hand, and suggestions for improvements.

      • Brian H.

        That’s great, Berke. You get right on the real issues. I’m going back to image-Googling Anthony Weiner’s Twitter girlfriends.

  • 718Russian_ak

    chorney blayt ahoyeley ooshe 

  • Guest

    They call each other “niggers”, ghetto mentality in all its beauty.
    Let them kill each other, world would be a better place without those roaches
    the only one who deserves pity and sadness is the girl who died, not those gang animals 

  • levp

    FYI

    There are 31 hate groups in New York State, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center:
    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map
    (select “New York” from the listbox under the map)

    I took screenshots for specific breakdown.
    3 hate groups in Brooklyn:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/63010162@N03/5829046366/

    9 hate groups in New York City:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/63010162@N03/5829046398/

    Specifically for KKK, there are 3 branches in New York State:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/63010162@N03/5829046418/

  • levp

    FYI

    There are 31 hate groups in New York State, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center:
    http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/hate-map
    (select “New York” from the listbox under the map)

    I took screenshots for specific breakdown.
    3 hate groups in Brooklyn:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/63010162@N03/5829046366/

    9 hate groups in New York City:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/63010162@N03/5829046398/

    Specifically for KKK, there are 3 branches in New York State:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/63010162@N03/5829046418/

    • Anonymous

      Motherfucker! 31 hate groups and I can’t join any of them! Sometimes I wish they had just one application, like CUNY and SUNY does. Also how do you dress for an interview with a hate group? Do I need a suit?

    • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

      Too many choices. Makes ones head spin.

      And how many groups hide their hate agenda under the guise of taking up specific action against legislation that helps minorities and othedr marginalized groups? Or opposes projects that might help members of those groups?

  • asitis

     http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/yearend2010enforcementreport.pdf

    year 2007
    http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2007-04-02hm.html

  • Andrew Kent
  • Andrew Kent

    Or try this one – funny song about hate: http://youtu.be/aIlJ8ZCs4jY