Have you seen or ridden on this bus yet?

It’s a new Nova bus made in upstate New York recently making it’s debut at Ulmer Park Depot. That’s the home of routes such as the B1, B3, B6, and B36. Luckily, only 90 have been ordered, at a cost of $45 million, because they have been criticized for having very little leg room and headroom, as well as only 34 seats. Other low floor buses have 36 seats and high floor models have 39 seats. When I was a kid, the standard was 53 seats. The NY Post has the complete story.

As a side note, in 1981 the MTA rejected two Japanese buses on loan for several weeks because of inadequate leg and headroom throughout. Today, the test is for 90 buses and they are not on loan. Apparently, today passenger comfort is less of a requirement and there were probably no focus groups. Most likely other concerns such as cost take a higher priority. Decisions by the MTA such as this prove once again that bus passengers don’t matter. Subway cars with a headroom of only slightly more than five feet at the ends of the cars would never have been ordered.

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  • Anonymous

    hope it’s roomier then the previous busses, like the Narrow pathway to the back, gd i hated that!

    • Georgia

      These buses are not the most comfortable feels like you riding on the floor.  They are very low.  Might be a little more roomy but nothing to talk about.  A little better to get on & off.  

      • Allan Rosen

        Are you talking about these specific buses or low floor buses in general?  If you weren’t on one of the routes I mentioned in the past month, you have not ridden on this bus.  These are the first low floor buses at Ulmer Park.

        • Georgia

          Must be the low floor buses in general?  Are these almost the same?  It looks like the low floor buses.  Correct me if I am mistaken. Thanks

          • Allan Rosen

            I haven’t been inside but apparently there are some differences, most notably the two rows of seats facing each other in the back, and the low headroom in the back.  Look at the picture in the NY Post article.

    • Allan Rosen

      Do you mean the buses with the soft seats and two-by two seating that were originally used as express buses?  Those buses were moved to Long Island bus several years ago after many complaints.

  • Boris

    I love these buses as they are 100x quieter than the old ones. My windows go out to ave z and I can’t wait for all of them to switch.

  • winson

    our buses just get uglier and uglier. the MTA need to bring back the box shape of the Orion V (mostly in Queens and Staten Island) and New Flyer D60HF (the articulated buses found in Manhattan and the Bronx).

  • Anonymous

    So I can scoot more quickly on a bus & not hold it up but when I do get on, I’ll be running over people’s feet? 

  • Ray Johnson

    I rode on one of these buses. The bus driver said he just picked it up for the first time from the depot. At night, the big windows that let us see everything inside. The bus driver is kind of separated from passengers and there’s a single seat on a platform right behind the driver. Also, we can go back to referring to riders on this bus as “straphangers”.

    As long as it saves energy, emits less fumes, and still works properly, I guess it’s a good thing.

  • Al D

    Can that be right? Is there on only 5′ 2″ of height in the back?

    • Allan Rosen

      I have not been inside the bus.  It may only be for the last three rows or only the last row where it really wouldn’t matter.

      Also, I have recently learned that because of the NY Post article, Nova Bus has agreed at their expense to move several rows of seats forward by about 4 inches increasing the leg room where it is a problem where the seats are facing each other.  Apparently, there was a screw up in the manufacture of the buses.  They wee not designed that way.