If you plan to smoke in a park, beach, marina, boardwalk or a pedestrian plaza, don’t even think about it.

Tuesday, Mayor Bloomberg signed legislation that prohibits smoking in parks, beaches, marinas, boardwalks and pedestrian plazas. The smoking ban will go into effect in 90 days, on May 23.

If anyone decides to pop out a cigarette in these places and is caught, he or she will have to pay a $50 fine.

Considering our coverage area is one of the few places in Brooklyn that actually has all of those things – parks, beaches, marinas, boardwalks and pedestrian plazas (I just like saying the whole list) – could it hurt our area a little more than others? What do you think?

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  • Wanderinglioness

    I think that this is one of the better things that Mayor Bloomberg has done. I, personally, hate cigarette, cigar, pipe smoke. I used to be a smoker until I got a whiff of myself and my hair. I quit over 8 years ago, and have never missed it. Nobody (especially children) should be exposed to 2nd hand smoke. It stinks and is very dangerous. Hopefully in the near future, there will no smoking allowed on the city streets either. I cannot tell you how many times I have been assaulted by a “smoke snyper”, exhaling his nicotine.

    • Faba

      2nd hand smoke is a myth. You don’t want to smoke then don’t. Everyone has a right to self medicate and it should not be dictated by city, state or federal government.
      I do not like your perfume it stinks and will give me asshole cancer (according to some study made by some guy in some lad in some other country) I think your perfume should be band from public areas.

      • Faba

        I also do not like red fences. In some people red color can cause violent outbreaks and put some people in to more aggressive, violent mood. Let ban red color from public places.
        Alcohol causes more deaths in this country than any other substance. I want to ban all alcohol from all public places. All of them. Why should you drink wine in the restaurant get behind the wheel and kill me? Lets ban all alcohol, your drinking is bad for my health.

        • Faba

          Some public speaking also causes unpleasant feelings in some and may cause riots and disorderly conduct. They might also make you question your government. We should ban public speaking as well.

          • Faba

            eating too much fats, salt, carbs and proteins is not healthy for you. Lets band restaurants that serve any of those substances.

          • Faba

            In fact I think unhealthy living is taxing us too much. I want everyone who is not exercising daily and does not run at least 4 10k marathons a year to be ticketed.
            Also if you are bench pressing less than 120 lbs you should be ticketed monthly until you can prove to medical community that you can lift at least 120lbs.

            Is you vision less than 20×20? You should be ticketed as well as you might bump in to me on the street and cause major irreversible damage.

            If you have a flu and riding subway you are endangering older people and children. Flu can cause death in young and elder. You should be jailed untill you heal or dead.

          • http://twitter.com/nicktherat Nick the Rat

            fabas on a roll.
            i bet the same people are for this law would have also believed everything hitler said as well.

        • nolastname

          +1 Faba. The sale of alcohol is OK because….
          1-It only hurts the alcoholic
          2-Families are not torn apart
          3-There are no health issues involved like diabetes
          4-We are in complete control of our senses after drinking
          5-The cost of medical insurance is not affected.
          6- An alcoholic has the best job performance.
          NOT.

          • http://twitter.com/nicktherat Nick the Rat

            are you against alcohol? O__O do you really think adults without government supervision would all drop dead of stupidity?

          • nolastname

            My point is tobacco and and booze are in the same boat.
            Why single out smokers?
            I’ll drink to that.

      • Barkingspider7

        2nd hand smoke is certainly NOT a myth. Where did you come up with this? If you can get cancer by breathing in smoke, then people around you who are breathing in what you just exhaled are also vulnerable.

        • http://twitter.com/nicktherat Nick the Rat

          when you are outside, and you see a smoker, do you run up to him and put your mouth close to his and inhale when he exhales? you bloody tard

          • wassupsheepsheadbay

            Thank you for clearing this up for all the goober’s

    • Anonymous

      Wake up everyone! This is not about smoking, or health. It’s about limiting personal freedoms and raising revenues for the City. Within one year, the City will announce that a large number of summonses were issued. This will be used as justification that the fine is not high enough to discourage smoking and therefore should be doubled to $100. Anyone want to place a bet on that?

    • Anonymous

      Wake up everyone! This is not about smoking, or health. It’s about limiting personal freedoms and raising revenues for the City. Within one year, the City will announce that a large number of summonses were issued. This will be used as justification that the fine is not high enough to discourage smoking and therefore should be doubled to $100. Anyone want to place a bet on that?

      • Anonymous

        I forgot to mention that I am a non-smoker and detest smoking. But I wouldn’t think of asking my next door neighbor not to smoke on his own property. A City judge just ruled today that a man on the upper east side is not allowed to smoke in his own apartment. This is a very bad precedent. If smoking is so bad, it should just be outlawed altogether, but of course government needs the tax revenue. All a bunch of hypocrisy.

        • Faba

          BrooklynBus I want make babies with you!
          They will be short buses :) but we will love them anyway!
          The City is all about collecting $ and nothing else.

        • nolastname

          And here come the “no smoking” condos.

      • Allanb

        I agree, this is yet another of Bloomberg’s plans to limit the rights and freedoms of residents of NYC. I am not a smoker, but I believe if someone wants to, they should have the right to. What’s next, are they going to bring back prohibition as well? We’ll have speakeasies and hidden smoking establishments again before you know it.

      • Wanderinglioness

        Why do you think that smoking has been banned is so many places? Because it is unhealthy for those people who do not have that filthy habit. Nobody is stopping you from smoking – just not in public arenas. You can smoke in your home if you want to.

        • Anonymous

          Really. I repeat. Look at the ruling this morning where an east sider reluctantly agreed not to smoke in his own apartment because of neighbor complaints and now can be fined $2,000 every time he lights up. This is not a joke but a look toward the future.

          • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

            Now people have as to whether the embrace the fascism of the left, or right.

          • Odin81

            the problem lies in the fact that there are people who look at the motivations behind decision making of those in power and those who chant like they are told to. the fact that at the present the sheep are outnumbering the freedom lovers who founded this country is troubling to say the least.
            about 70 years ago there was this country in europe where this one guy blamed one group of people for all the problems and taxed and robbed them in order to benefit these other guys who were on his side, who were of course all fine examples of human beings. im pretty sure we all know how that turned out.
            im also pretty sure that we are sliding in the same direction.

        • http://twitter.com/nicktherat Nick the Rat

          banning smoking indoors is ok, smoke fills rooms, smoke doesnt fill the atmosphere.
          what if you arent home and want to smoke a pipe to clear your mind? your statement of “you can smoke in your house if you want to, why are you mad” makes me INFURIATED. you must be one of those really annoying humans

      • Ascav

        Exactly!! You just forgot one point, this is the usual Mike Bloomberg,”I know Better than you, what is good for you”. The City and State are in a fiscal dilemma. The revenue collected will help pay for the many unnecessary City workers driving around in City cars. But, if you look at the big picture, what is going to be next? Our rights are being dictated by one man. We are going to wake up one day and be told what books we are allowed to read.

        • Anonymous

          And the things they should be cracking down on like the proliferation of City Parking Permit placards and illegal use of them when not on official business, or improper use of handicap placards, they never crack down on. That’s why they keep raising the fines to pay for the lost revenue from people who should be paying but are not.

        • Animo916

          That’s already happening in our schools, as Bloomturd is the one who picks the curriculum books.

    • Anonymous

      Wake up everyone! This is not about smoking, or health. It’s about limiting personal freedoms and raising revenues for the City. Within one year, the City will announce that a large number of summonses were issued. This will be used as justification that the fine is not high enough to discourage smoking and therefore should be doubled to $100. Anyone want to place a bet on that?

    • http://twitter.com/nicktherat Nick the Rat

      you should never leave your house because car exhaust is worse then cig smoke. sorry if you are a huge pussy, second hand smoke in the outdoors is a myth. if you think its real, we have a much larger problem on our hands.

      • Anonymous

        If second-hand smoke hits you outdoors, you can always walk or move away. It won’t kill you after one whiff.

        • bagels

          That’s true. I can walk away from the park bench or move my beach blanket but why should my right to smoke free air be infringed upon in the first place?

          • http://twitter.com/nicktherat Nick the Rat

            your right to smoke free air? do you cross the street EVER? grow up

          • bagels

            No. You grow up. I don’t want to be down wind of anyones cigarette smoke.

          • wassupsheepsheadbay

            so don’t inhale u fussy bitch

          • http://twitter.com/nicktherat Nick the Rat

            I NEVER INHALED! *vote for nick the rat, president of the united states of america!*

          • bagels

            Don’t get so freakin’ nasty.

          • Anonymous

            I agree with you. I don’t like it either. That’s why the solution was to set up special smoking areas, as the City Council suggested. But of course Bloomberg was against that sensible approach because that way people would comply and there wouldn’t be any revenue, which I say again is the prime reason for this law. Dictator Bloomberg has no right to determine that we can’t smoke outdoors, can’t use salt, can’t drink sugery drinks, etc.

  • Kekeke6

    I say catch me if you can, not enough parks or police to enforce this law

    • http://www.flickr.com/knightmare6 Knightmare6

      The police won’t enforce this law yet… right now it’s up to the Parks Department to write the citations.

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

        The Parks Department really wants to spend their time writing summonses.

        I predict within a year the law will be ignored.

        This was just another example of feel good legislation.

        • Anonymous

          This law will be enforced. The City is anticipating a certain amount of revenue from it to help balance the budget. It will be enforced until that limit is reached. And if Bloomberg directs Parks to issue summonses, they certainly will, even if they don’t want to.

          Have you been to the beach in recent summers? Bloomberg won’t pay lifeguards to stay extra hours until 7 or 8PM in the summer when it is 95 degrees out. But he can afford to pay security officers to chase people out of the water. These officers can and do issue $150 fines to anyone who does not obey their command to leave the waer. I’ve personally seen it.

          • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

            In this case I don’tn think it was motivated by revenue considerations. Rather, it was a way of placating a growing anti-smoking segment that demanded more official “action” against smokers.

            I believe that state law requires that measures are taken to ensure that people are not in the water when there are no lifeguards. Fines are a good means of doing so. As for the City’s failure to keep lifeguards on duty or longer hours when it is especially warm, such inconsiderations are consistent with the present administration’s war on working class people.

          • Anonymous

            I disagree. I don’t believe a growing anti-smoking segment demanded more action. There is a growing anti-bike lane movement. Do you think the City will alter their plans to increase the number of bike lanes?

            As far as the state law you speak of. If there is one, why is it there in the first place? It is totally unnecessary. Proper signage warning bathers the risks of going into the water without lifeguards is all that is needed. You cannot legislate common sense. Florida doesn’t have such a law when they have a shark problem and we don’t. Their signs just say swim at your own risk when lifeguards are not present.

          • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

            There has been increased enforcement of the bike laws of late. True, it creates revenue, but more importantly it placates nthe anti-bike people, who claim that bikers are creating safety hazards.

            When I was studying law some years ago we did a theoretical case to find holes in NY’s “Good Samaritan” law. This was before Seinfeld tackled that heavy duty subject. One the aspects we considered was the requirement that jurisdictions remove all persons from a swimming area when lifeguards were removed. Forcibly, if necessary. Governments do not assume that people will act in their own best interest. A fine can theoretically create a lasting impression.

            Determining intent of legislators is a tedious process, one has to go back to the notes taken during committee meetings and other activity related to the passage of legislation.

            Florida is not New York, it’s legislative philosophy is much different.

          • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

            There has been increased enforcement of the bike laws of late. True, it creates revenue, but more importantly it placates nthe anti-bike people, who claim that bikers are creating safety hazards.

            When I was studying law some years ago we did a theoretical case to find holes in NY’s “Good Samaritan” law. This was before Seinfeld tackled that heavy duty subject. One the aspects we considered was the requirement that jurisdictions remove all persons from a swimming area when lifeguards were removed. Forcibly, if necessary. Governments do not assume that people will act in their own best interest. A fine can theoretically create a lasting impression.

            Determining intent of legislators is a tedious process, one has to go back to the notes taken during committee meetings and other activity related to the passage of legislation.

            Florida is not New York, it’s legislative philosophy is much different.

          • Anonymous

            “There has been increased enforcement of the bike laws of late. True, it creates revenue, but more importantly it placates the anti-bike people, who claim that bikers are creating safety hazards.”

            No. More importantly it creates revenue by charging bikers $270 for running a red light. Placating the anti-bike people is a far secondary reason. Do you think they will fine biker messengers in Midtown Manhattan who are actually causing a safety hazard? No, the people they first went after were recreational bikers in Central Park who weren’t posing that much of a danger, because it was easier to collect fines from them because the Central Park precinct has little else to do.

          • http://www.flickr.com/photos/lisanne001 Lisanne!

            Central Park precinct exists largely to catch miscreants who commit fineable offenses. It’s been that way for a long time.

            Would they fine bike messengers? No, the business community would be up in arms if they did.

  • nolastname

    Bloomie did say it will be up to non smoking citizens to enforce the law. This will be interesting. And how far out into the ocean does the law engulf?

    • Animo916

      There’s the loophole. I will be smoking in the water from now on. “Your honor, I was not on the beach. I was in the ocean.”

  • http://www.infoalatkantor.com/papan-tulis-whiteboard-c-48.html jual papan tulis

    Smoking not good for health

    • Faba

      So is many many other things. Should we outlaw all of them too?

      • http://twitter.com/nicktherat Nick the Rat

        i do think the fda should enforce companies to tell us everything that is in our foods. no more of this “natural flavoring” bullshit

        • http://www.flickr.com/knightmare6 Knightmare6

          A lot of people would quickly stop eating any red-colored foods!

        • Animo916

          Or hydrogenated or enriched, and what about high fructose corn syrup?

  • http://www.facebook.com/ChaChaLici0us Rita Mitrofanov

    You know, as a former smoker i am sure people will not at all be thrilled about this, especially during the summer on the beach. Yikes. However, now that i do not smoke, i am happy that i wont have smoke blowing in my face from those walking in front of me or sun bathing on the next towel over. I understand the need for a cigarette, but perhaps its time to quit people. Smoking isnt cool anymore and furthermore, almost 12 bucks a pack is a ridiculous amount to pay! imagine the amount of money you’ll save. Holy snapple batman!

    • http://twitter.com/nicktherat Nick the Rat

      when im outside and someone farts, or smells bad, should they get a ticket as well?

      • http://www.flickr.com/knightmare6 Knightmare6

        There is a country in Africa trying to pass this actually, LOL

      • Anonymous

        Fart smell can’t cause lung cancer. :) however it can cause throw up. hahah

  • http://twitter.com/nicktherat Nick the Rat

    fascism, fuck yeah! i am ashamed to be an american, and i hope bloomberg gets hit by a train. whoever let him get elected for a third term, i hope all die of the aids.

    today smoking, tomorrow you cant read in public because you are offending all the morons. no short skirts because you are promoting rape. you can only drink water in public because the sugar water we sell you is bad.

    • Anonymous

      They will still allow you to read about Lindsay Lohan, just don’t try to read anything where you might actually learn something.

  • nolastname

    Does anyone remember the gum cigarettes, or the Chocolate cigarettes and last but not least the novelty smokes that blew powder?
    All geared for children.
    After years of allowing us to be brain washed, (be Kool…I’d rather fight than switch,
    look like the Marlboro man and all those cool smokers in the movies), an apology would be nice.

  • Anonymous

    If this weren’t a revenue enhancement device I doubt if the city rulers would even think about it. You can’t even drink a beer on the boardwalk anymore. This place is becoming a real hick town.

  • Anonymous

    you know normally i would be against shit like this, But I’m actually Happy. I used to be a smoker i smoked for about 6 years then when the city started making those cig’s that would burn out by them selves, used to make me feel weird and i remember the reason i quit smoking was because i couldn’t fall asleep cause i couldn’t breathe.

    now when i go into places like Pool hall and such i want to breathe and play the games, instead of suffocating. shame on all you for buying cIg’s for $10 a pack.

  • Gene

    speaking of smoking…. how about legalizing marijuana

    • Anonymous

      i am with you on that one.

      • wassupsheepsheadbay

        wanna make that one day, … today?

  • Eitan

    Let me tell you all why this is happening, so you can understand it. It has nothing to do with collecting fines, and it has nothing to do with controlling you. These are small-picture ideas, you folks need to see the bigger picture.

    Throughout the major cities of Europe, the cities which are the major business and financial hubs of the world, over the last many years have been slowly changing. Improved public transportation, promotion of non polluting means of travel such as walking and bicycling, improvement of green areas, among other things, and yes, the discouragement of smoking. The investments these cities are making dont stop there, those are only the most visible things. As much as you might think otherwise, major global cities are not run by morons, the actions they take, the investments they make have a greater purpose, and it has nothing at all to do with you. It has to do with business.

    Major global cities are competing to attract major global corporations, either by trying to keep them from moving away, or by making it friendlier for them to come from somewhere else. This is where the city makes its real money. The fines they collect from you by enforcing rules is spit in the ocean compared to the revenue multinational banks and financial firms generate when they open offices, or build office towers. You happen to live in a major global city, and you are feeling the effects of it. But remember, just because you feel the effects, doesnt mean they were ever directed at you.

    Now stop bitching.

    • Anonymous

      Sounds nice but I don’t see this effort of improving public transportation you are speaking of. All I see is the cutting of these services. A few Select Bus Routes does not constitute “improving public transportation”. The real purpose of those routes are to reduce operating expenses by reducing the number of bus stops. Some do benefit, but the benefits are over-exaggerated.

      Bicycling is also an admirable goal for smaller and medium-sized cities where your average trip time may be between 30 and 45 minutes. But in NY we have many trips that require 90 minutes or more because it is a very big City. For most trips, bicycling is just not a feasible alternative, no matter now many bike lanes there are.

      • Eitan

        the billions being spent digging the second avenue tunnel dont count as effort to improve?

        • Anonymous

          The Second Avenue subway has been in the planning stages since 1929 and stopped because of the war. It was revived in 1952 then stopped again. Revived in the 1970s and stopped again. Revived a fourth time and now it appears that only the first phase will be built with no money for service below 63rd Street. It’s always just a few years away and the date is constantly pushed forward. I don’t consider that “effort to improve.” It should have been completed long ago if there was a real effort.

      • Eitan

        or what about the new fleet of subway cars to replace the older ones, how about the fleet of buses that run on CNG instead of blowing black smoke all over the streets? Or the citywide multiyear renovation of subway stations? You dont see any improvement? Are you living under a rock?

        • Anonymous

          Of course the transportation system has greatly improved in the last 30 years. No one is denying that. But you apparently like logic and would like to believe that every law or plan has been logically planned and somehow fits into one giant master plan. If believing that somehow makes you feel better, go ahead and believe it.

          However, that is not the case. There is absolutely no relationship between transit and this No Smoking legislation. There is no master plan. Everything evolves haphazardly through political deals and compromises. You think for one minute that someone sat down and planned the subway system, for example, so that it best serves the people. No. It developed one line at a time, and many of the planned lines were never even built. If it were planned, don’t you think we would have had one subway line down Broadway instead of an IRT Broadway line that veers toward 7th Avenue and a BMT Broadway line to continue most of the rest of the way, to be replaced by the Lexington Avenue line at Manhattan’s southern tip? Doesn’t that make it a bit more confusing than necessary?

          And you even admit that all these “improvements” as you call them were made to help business, not the citizens. And Bloomberg has been more guilty of this than anyone else. Bet the police are instructed not to ticket foreign tourists who are smoking. Can’t hurt tourism, can we? We can only harass our own citizens.

          • Anonymous

            And one more thing. You think the MTA bought those CNG buses on its own because they cared about people’s health or to encourage business by making the City a more pleasant place? It took 20 years of fighting by transportation and environmental advocates to make that happen.

          • Eitan

            There doesnt have to be a ‘master plan’ for there to be a trend. And no matter how many decades behind schedule the tunnel is, the purpose behind it remains the same as it ever was.

            You’re putting words into my mouth and misconstruing my message. If I meant to say there was a master plan I would have. My message is that these actions are part of a trend to attract business, in competition with other centers of business. Thats all. Doesnt matter how many years or how many environmentalists it took to make it happen. If the environmentalists want to think they were responsible for it, then why did it take 20 years? No, it happened when the city realised the cost/benefit made sense, in light of what other locals were doing.

            And to answer your comment below, no I dont think the CNG buses had anything at all to do with people’s health. If you got my message you would realise that.

          • Eitan

            And lastly, if you disagree with my message, fine. Why dont you tell me why this is happening? You think this is because bloomberg sits in his office laughing at the thought of controlling people? You think the city is going to get rich writing tickets to smokers?

            Also, I’ll backtrack a bit on my previous comment. In a way, every city has a master plan, and attracting business is it. Everything that comes down from that level is to those ends. If you disagree, why dont you give me your alternate explanation?

          • Anonymous

            I gave my explanation in my very first comment. No sense repeating it again. You on the other hand are all over the place. First, you say there is no master plan, only trends. Then you say, every city has a master plan to attract business and CNG buses are part of it. However, it has nothing to do with improving health, but improving business. Then you claim everything good the City does, it does on its own and not because of any outside forces. You won’t give environmentalists any credit because it took 20 years to get CNG buses. (The reason it took so long is that doing anything really worthwhile takes 20 years fighting government. Nothing comes easy.) If you don’t see that it’s political realities and compromises that shape decisions, not master plans, trends, or good intentions, I don’t know what planet you’re living on but it’s not this one.

            And no one said anything about the City getting rich on writing tickets to anyone. It just helps balance the budget, that’s all. And it doesn’t really matter if Bloomberg is laughing or not controlling people, but that’s what he is doing, controlling your behavior and actions that he has no business getting involved in.

          • Eitan

            OK. I hear you.

      • Eitan

        what about the new fleet of subway cars to replace the older ones, how about the fleet of buses that run on CNG instead of blowing black smoke all over the streets? Or the citywide multiyear renovation of subway stations? You dont see any improvement? Are you living under a rock?

    • Local Broker

      This is NYC major banks and companies are already here. This isnt SF, LA, Miami or Dallas. Banning smoking in public places isnt going to impact a company from doing business here. What they want is to make money and pay less tax thats it. I will use hedge fund managers as an example. Alot of them live in CT or NJ but have offices here and pay capital gains taxes instead of NY income tax if that changes they wont leave their house to come to NY. Smoking and bike lanes have nothing to do with it.

      • Eitan

        Here today, gone tomorrow. Smoking by iself is not going to influence anything, but its part of a wider trend, a trend towards a cleaner, healthier, more civilized environment. The kind of environment that places a city at the top of all sorts of charts and studies, the kind of envirnment that gets people talking, thinking.

        You can argue these points as if they are something I just pulled out of a hat, but the fact remains that these policies are part of a broader push to maintain and to grow. If this city did nothing then in twenty years we would be talking about our status as a global city in the past tense. There are other interested parties working very hard to take away what we have and what may come our way.

        • Local Broker

          Thats all fine and dandy making they city a better place but why dont they start by figuring out how to clean the streets and trash baskets. You are missing the big picture here by them telling people they are making public spaces private by only allowing people who dont smoke free passage. Not smoking indoors is one thing but idiots that think standing in Times Square is healthier without second hand smoke but thousands of cars passing just a few feet away is ok just doesnt make sense. The only place that makes sense to ban smoking are playgrounds for kids there is no reason to smoke there becuase its only for kids. Parks, beaches and boardwalks are for everyone.

          • Eitan

            Im not missing the big picture at all, nor am I saying that what the city is doing is good for you and me, I was just trying to explain to the people on here why this is happening, because there are a lot of questions being asked.

            What you fail to recognise, what most people fail to recognise, is that these laws and policies are not created with your health and well being in mind. You’re looking at this from the bottom up, and thats why none of this makes sense to you. You need to look at the laws from the top down, from the view of the people who are writing them.

            Of course car exhaust is poisonous, of course this now means that the ‘public’ part of public spaces means a whole lot less. Of course singling out smoking doesnt make sense. Unless you look at it from the other side, then everything begins to make sense.

            There are rankings, there are polls, this city ranks higher, that city ranks higher, this city is healthier, that city is better, etc. One city bikes a billion miles a year, the other city bikes a hundred billion miles a year. One city has so many obese people, the other city has fewer. One city is this way, the other city is that way. This shit matters. Companies want to be seen doing business in places that “care about” their people. Its good for business.

            You think the city is spending billions digging a hole in the middle of manhattan so you cretins can have a nicer train ride? Ha! Dont think so highly of yourselves. Other cities are ranking high on public transportation rankings, rankings on dollars invested, rankings on punctuality, rankings for this and rankings for that. Your participation is peripheral to the greater goal, which is attracting and keeping business.

            But, you cretins do benefit. You get lots of new shiny trains, buses, roads, etc. And always remember, this is done in the name of economic growth, so dont complain because the money the city makes off of economic growth means they dont have to tax you as much as they would have to without it. So smile :-)

          • Local Broker

            You dont know me and have no idea how i think or how i look at things either from top or bottom. i will repeat myself for you this is not some second city its NYC businesses know what they are getting here its not Newburgh, NY or some other place no ones ever been to and trying to figure out whats going on there. As for the holes in the ground the only reason those things get approved is because someones getting a kickback or making money off of it not because its good thats just the way they spin it. The big picture is some asshole is trying to tell me what i can or cant do trans fat. salt. smoke. Where does it stop? If its so bad for people then make it illegal and i will stop. You know why its not going to happen because people make to much money from it.

          • Eitan

            You’re right. This is all about bloomberg having the evil power to control you, and making $50 tickets.

          • Local Broker

            You talk about a bigger picture at the same time you think a $50 ticket does not mean anything. Everything counts at the end of the day just like any company that makes a product that sells for a dollar or a thousand if it makes money why not. Its not about Bloomberg or his evil plan its more about politicians that are full of shit. Why do you think he became mayor because he needed another job its about ego and nothing else. How many pols do you think are out there that really want to help and make a difference? If there any that started out that way its impossible for them to continue without selling out on something else. It doesnt matter what party you think you are a part of because it doesnt exist. The only parties there are are ones with power and those without it. Shit needs to change. Maybe its time for a revolution.

          • Anonymous

            Funny or not so funny you mention “revolution.” Because one of the first things I thought of when seeing the uprise in Egypt was what if something like that happened in NYC on a much smaller scale. You push people far enough and it’s not out of the question. Imagine thousands or hundreds of thousands of people demonstrating in front of City Hall or in front of Bloomberg’s brownstone.

  • Local Broker

    Whats scary is the people that complain about second hand smoke outside but dont have a problem with car exhaust. There is a much bigger problem here with all the fucking morons that actually have a say in this country. There should be a test when you register to vote to make sure you are not a imbecile. It would be funny to see someone from the parks dept on the beach trying to give a bunch of meatheads tickets. Does anyone really think that people on the beach by the water are going to troop to the sidewalk to have a cig? At some point Americans are going to have to start taking to the streets and protesting. There are way to many incompetent buffoons that have a say and running this country. I would much rather they figure out how to get people to clean up after their dog shits all over the sidewalk and enforce that.
    Advance notice to anyone that wants to reply to this with a rebuttal YOU ARE A DOUCHE BAG!

  • wassupsheepsjeadbay

    this shit is fucking stupid fuck bloomberg and this legislation he signed, why can’t i smoke outside, i dont understand,

    • Anonymous

      Our mayor isn’t very smart, if you haven’t notice from Recent Events… :)

    • nolastname

      Don’t let him catch you kicking back a beer on the old foot bridge eitherhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/34224145@N04/5348951483/

      • nolastname

        Discus sucks also. Trying to edit my last comment for the pic to work.

  • http://twitter.com/nicktherat Nick the Rat

    you guys also hear that to get a job in the medical industry they can test you for nicotine. how do yu think about that shit. if a doctor smokes, he can lose his job. FUCK YOU GOVERNMENTS

    • nolastname

      Insurance companies can charge a higher premium or refuse a person all together. A small practice can refuse medical insurance to it’s employees.

      • http://twitter.com/nicktherat Nick the Rat

        this isnt just for insurance though, this is everyone who works in the medical feild. i dont see why this matters at all. soon we will all have rfid chips implanted in our arses

        • nolastname

          The Prisoner comes to mind.

  • nolastname

    I am waiting for Bloomie give all city employees an order to quit puffing or else!

  • Anonymous

    Everyone dies of something. Let me know when they come up with a cure for death.

    • Eitan

      thats easy. try not to be born

  • Anonymous

    Lots of you complaining that government is telling you what to do and why isnt it that you can smoke outside…? Well.. you can but please smoke inside your house or inside your car (with your windows closed) or on your back yard .. but please make sure that it is big enough so that cigarette smoke goes up before it reaches your neighbors.

    #1 When I’m driving.. in summer or in winter does not matter and someone in another car in front of me is smoking.. I have to close all my windows or make sure that air inside re circulates and not drawn from the outside so that I and my family do not breath in someone else’s toxins.

    #2 I’m sure that many of you if not all been to boardwalk in summer? Well .. isnt it nice to just stand there and enjoy that fresh air on the got humid night? Sure it is! Well not unless someone is smoking and all that smoke is blown toward you… why do I have to be effected by your smoke? I want to enjoy being outside and enjoy the air not faking breath on your cigarette smoke? Go put a bubble on your head and smoke your brains out.

    #3 On the beach.. same thing, I’m there to enjoy it.. not to collect second hand smoke ohh and what do you with your cigarette butts? You bury them in the sand… WTF!!!

    I used to smoke for 15 years but as more people around me quit I realize that
    #1 I was doing harm to myself
    #2 I was doing harm to my family, since nicotine stays on your close and your body everyone else is subject to it as well and you stink on top of that too.

    #3 I was spending way too much money on that crap
    #4 Only tobacco company would profit from this (and city with their outrages taxes)
    #5 I notices that when you smoke in public people turn away from you and are not looking for any kind of conversation with you while you have it lit.

  • RS

    Everyone has a choice…I really enjoy a nice cigar while taking a walk on the boardwalk…why should I be deprived of this? Smoking is a personal choice, just like not smoking is a personal choice. If someone does not like second hand smoke, take few steps in another direction — problem solved. So far we banned peanut butter & jelly sandwiches in school because few kids have allergies and want to make it a law to fine people who listen to ipods while crossing the street because ONE person got run over….I personally don’t like people who smell (plenty of those on the boardwalk)….lets fine everyone with bad hygiene….just ridiculous

    • Anonymous

      “.lets fine everyone with bad hygiene..”

      Why do you want to give Bloomberg more ideas?

      • Anonymous

        bad hygeine does not spread on to other people. so.. i will not smell your sweating arm pits … unless I stand right next to you or walk behind you really close.. but I do smell and inhale with air cigarette smoke even from 20 feet away… so.. you know what.. If I have to chose between smelly but non smoking people and people who use deodorant and smoke I chose first group… your smoke will kill your deodorant smell anyway.

    • Anonymous

      Why does one who does not smoke has to take few steps in another direction.. How about you take few steps away from the board walk. Reason why people go and enjoy boardwalk in the first place is fresh air not cigar smoke. And .. there are a lot of families with kids, go blow smoke on your own kid.. if you have any that is.

  • Smgruenhut

    It’s about time that smoking is banned from public places, including, but not limited to, beaches, marinas, boardwalks, parks, et al. As far as I’m concerned, smoking should be banned entirely. It has been proven that smoking, whether it be 1st hand, 2nd hand or even 3rd hand, is toxic, lethal and harmful to all living things, and the environment in general. It is a terrible addiction, but must be dealt with swiftly and severely. A $50 fine is not even a slap on the wrist, I think that the fine should be $5,000 for a first offense, then $1,000 thereafter – perhaps that might be a deterrant – get ‘em where it hurts – in the wallet. I have lots too many individuals to cigarettes – loved ones have died due to either 1st hand smoke or 2nd hand smoke – I have worked with asthmatic children who are horribly ill because of smoking in their environment. Time to eradicate the scourge of smoking. Bravo Mayor Bloomberg – better late than never, but better never late!

  • Jonathan Stettin

    Just say no

  • Jonathan Stettin

    Just say no

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