Comments on: Plumb Beach Destruction Goes Beyond Bike Path

By: Rachel Phillips

Rachel Phillips — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 21:03:05 +0000

Debris comes from boats, and sewers to start.
I literally picked over 50 plastic bottles in a 20 ft radius.

see this pic on facebook of plumb beach cleanup: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2035440&i...

as they say talk is cheap, so find a beach cleanup in the area

To help , see American Littorical society for beach cleanups.

http://www.littoralsociety.org/

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Wed, 02 Dec 2009 05:44:52 +0000

[...] meeting ended with calls for agencies to return “to the drawing board,” echoing a January meeting in which the congressman requested proposals from the agencies involved. Following that meeting, no plans were submitted other than the SB/PB proposal, which was virtually [...]

By: clare

clare — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:28:23 +0000

Please look back on my comment _”Hurricane hits plumb beach” tyvm

By: Lisanne!

Lisanne! — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:31:29 +0000

I haven’t been to the part east of the toll booth, but I’ve heard that area was the dumping area back in the 20s and earlier. People used to dig there, so there is probably nothing of any interest left there garbagewise.

By: BillW

BillW — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:14:14 +0000

Lisanne – I believe the area west of the toll boths was filled up to the ’50’s. “Bottle beach” and the western shore of Barren Island is being eroded. The sand covering is only about 3-4 feet thick with hosuehold garbage, newspapers, construction fill, and bottles all exposed along the shore.

By: Lisanne!

Lisanne! — Thu, 19 Nov 2009 00:03:38 +0000

I’m not sure how useful this iusm but here’s a historical survey of Jamaica Bay Unit of the park, with historic uses discussed.

http://www.nps.gov/history/history/online_books/gate/jamaica_bay_hrs.pdf

By: Lisanne!

Lisanne! — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:58:54 +0000

So I’ve seen. It’s confusing because I thought they stopped dumping garbage in that area in the 1920s. Where is this garbage actually coming from?

By: Bill W

Bill W — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:56:17 +0000

Lisanne – Barren Island is one the Army Corp of Engineers location for restoration. Due to lack of funding, who knows when that will be done. In the meantime, garbage from the 1940’s and 50’s is constantly being exposed and washes into the bay daily.

By: Bill W

Bill W — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:52:27 +0000

Ned- I guess I was thrown by Dr. Psuty’s “The negative impact is far to the east…” His referral to the effects of filling in marsh lands is correct but the much larger problem is the disappearing marshland far to the east in Jamaica Bay. Yes, sand placed by the bathrooms on Plumb Beach does migrate the 3000 feet east to a smaller marsh area. Further to the east: Barren Island, White Island, and JB could use some of that sand. His main point that sand placed anywhere along a shore line as active as Plumb Beach does not stay put is not disputed. Besides a growing sand bar off the #7 Plumb Beach channel buoy, sand is also choking of the entrance to Sheepshead Bay. Sand moves and there are few, if any, permanent solutions other than periodic reshuffling.

By: Lisanne!

Lisanne! — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:59:53 +0000

I’ve seen a definite erosion all along that area, though some places it is a bit less than in others.

Plumb Beach was an island originally. I wonder how landfill has affected the shoreline.

Though if I remember correctly Barren Island had a serious erosion problem even in the early 1900s.

Can they bring in sedimented sand from elsewhere?